"No refusal weekend"

[JC316]

Harassment? Lulz. If someone is truly being harassed I hope they're growing a set of balls and do something about it through the judicial system. There is no call for being harassed, but that doesn't give anyone the right to legally get behind the wheel and drive while impaired on drugs and/or alcohol. Do you think random employee drug tests are harassment as well? I mean the majority of the workforce isn't doing a damn thing wrong yet you still have to provide a sample for testing or risk being fired for refusal. Maybe railroad crossings and traffic lights are harassment too? I mean who wants to wait for trains and other vehicles, it's a public road that you pay taxes on, might as well be able to go where you want, when you want without having the harassment of waiting. You can probably sue the railroad and TXDOT for this harassment and impeding your travel on public roads.

Let's get realistic here, if you're truly not doing anything wrong(not impaired according to the sets laws in this State) you will pass through a DUI checkpoint without much more than 30 seconds of your time, if that much. You act like they stop every single vehicle and make each driver go through a full field sobriety test. I guess inconveniencing you for 30 seconds in order to help find and get drunk and impaired drivers off the road is completely and utterly unacceptable to you. Selfish much?

The judicial system is broken. Odds are that you will wind up paying thousands and not getting a damn thing done. Just because people are getting behind the wheel drunk doesn't meant that the cops should be able to ignore the 4th amendment and stop anyone they damn well please.

Railroad stops and traffic lights don't subject you to the whim of a person in power. I have never had much issue with cops, but there are cops with serious attitude problems out there.

Just because a DUI checkpoint is fast doesn't justify them. I guess we should just throw what remaining rights we have away just because it's not THAT much of an inconvenience. I mean damn, we should be subject to house inspections every day, if you aren't doing anything illegal, then it should take that long. Think of all the drug dealers and terrorists that could be caught that way and how much safer we all will be.

Like the one who hit me at 120+ ?? He looked like a old raggedy Ann doll after we found his body. I'm betting there was not a bone in his body that wasn't broke or pulverized.
Nothing like finding a person and checking for a pulse and looking into there dead eyes, knowing that some one is going to get a knock on there door telling them hes dead and there life will never be the same. Hope you do better than he did, he left kids with no life insurance.
And you wonder why they do these check points,

So we should lose our rights to protect some dumbfuck that decided to ride his bike while drunk? Good plan.

[Lone Sailor]

The judicial system is broken. Odds are that you will wind up paying thousands and not getting a damn thing done. Just because people are getting behind the wheel drunk doesn't meant that the cops should be able to ignore the 4th amendment and stop anyone they damn well please.

Railroad stops and traffic lights don't subject you to the whim of a person in power. I have never had much issue with cops, but there are cops with serious attitude problems out there.

Just because a DUI checkpoint is fast doesn't justify them. I guess we should just throw what remaining rights we have away just because it's not THAT much of an inconvenience. I mean damn, we should be subject to house inspections every day, if you aren't doing anything illegal, then it should take that long. Think of all the drug dealers and terrorists that could be caught that way and how much safer we all will be.



So we should lose our rights to protect some dumbfuck that decided to ride his bike while drunk? Good plan.

If having Checkpoints isn't part of the answer to catching them then what is? What are other options that YOU think should be used to catch impaired drivers? You're obviously against it Checkpoints hardcore, so do you have a stance on how to correct what you say is against your rights or are you just one of those guys that like to complain about laws on a message board? Maybe you'd rather law enforcement just quit worrying about impaired drivers altogether because they're really not a threat to anyone in society?

[JC316]

If having Checkpoints isn't part of the answer to catching them then what is? What are other options that YOU think should be used to catch impaired drivers? You're obviously against it Checkpoints hardcore, so do you have a stance on how to correct what you say is against your rights or are you just one of those guys that like to complain about laws on a message board? Maybe you'd rather law enforcement just quit worrying about impaired drivers altogether because they're really not a threat to anyone in society?

Sure, spike strips leading out of a bar parking lot. In order to leave the bar, you have to pass a breathalyser test, then the spikes lower. Or you can have it receipt based, number of drinks followed by your weight and the time of drinking them, over the limit and the bar wont let you drive out.

That would be one way of doing it.

[Lone Sailor]

Sure, spike strips leading out of a bar parking lot. In order to leave the bar, you have to pass a breathalyser test, then the spikes lower. Or you can have it receipt based, number of drinks followed by your weight and the time of drinking them, over the limit and the bar wont let you drive out.

That would be one way of doing it.

What about people who drink at sporting events, or even in their own homes? Are you going to put spikes strips and breathalyzers at everyone's driveway so they can't leave if they're over the limit?

[JC316]

What about people who drink at sporting events, or even in their own homes? Are you going to put spikes strips and breathalyzers at everyone's driveway so they can't leave if they're over the limit?

No, but you have to admit that the majority of drunk drivers come from bars, and that is usually where the cops set up the DUI checkpoints. Nothing is foolproof, but you play the percentages. Think of how many drunk drivers you could stop with my idea compared to the DUI checkpoints.

[ram57ta]

Like the one who hit me at 120+ ?? He looked like a old raggedy Ann doll after we found his body. I'm betting there was not a bone in his body that wasn't broke or pulverized.
Nothing like finding a person and checking for a pulse and looking into there dead eyes, knowing that some one is going to get a knock on there door telling them hes dead and there life will never be the same. Hope you do better than he did, he left kids with no life insurance.
And you wonder why they do these check points,

I think your sarcasm meter needs to be adjusted

[Broncojohnny]

Part of freedom is being free to break the law in the first place. I think some people need to think about that before typing.

[Lone Sailor]

No, but you have to admit that the majority of drunk drivers come from bars, and that is usually where the cops set up the DUI checkpoints. Nothing is foolproof, but you play the percentages. Think of how many drunk drivers you could stop with my idea compared to the DUI checkpoints.

Provide some studies that show the majority of drunk drivers come only from bars. I'm guessing you're young and the bar scene is what you see and hear the most about it, or maybe even go to yourself. Restaurants, Hotels, Sports Complexes, even your own home(among many others), are all places where people drink and become impaired. You would have to put that shit on every single home and business to make that even remotely possible. That's not only a huge amount of money that taxpayers are going to have to come up with, but that's going to create a higher amount of pissed off people that how many don't like DUI Checkpoints. I just don't see how that would ever be a good solution.

[JC316]

Provide some studies that show the majority of drunk drivers come only from bars. I'm guessing you're young and the bar scene is what you see and hear the most about it, or maybe even go to yourself. Restaurants, Hotels, Sports Complexes, even your own home(among many others), are all places where people drink and become impaired. You would have to put that shit on every single home and business to make that even remotely possible. That's not only a huge amount of money that taxpayers are going to have to come up with, but that's going to create a higher amount of pissed off people that how many don't like DUI Checkpoints. I just don't see how that would ever be a good solution.

Somehow, I don't think that officers are stalking the roads where it's mostly residential or hotels. Everywhere I have seen a checkpoint has been near the bar scene. Since you are pulling the statistic card, where are yours showing that the majority of drunk drivers come from restaurants, hotels, and homes?

Also, most restaurants that I have seen have a limit on how many drinks you can order. On that note, there is another way to limit drunk drivers, a drink limit at bars. Three drink limit anywhere they serve alcohol unless you can prove that you have a designated driver.

Personally, I have never set foot in a bar and the extent of my drinking is two beers while watching football. I have been through a DUI checkpoint and I didn't like it one bit.

[talisman]

I've never heard of any bar or restaurant having a drink limit.

[Stephen]

Provide some studies that show the majority of drunk drivers come only from bars. I'm guessing you're young and the bar scene is what you see and hear the most about it, or maybe even go to yourself. Restaurants, Hotels, Sports Complexes, even your own home(among many others), are all places where people drink and become impaired. You would have to put that shit on every single home and business to make that even remotely possible. That's not only a huge amount of money that taxpayers are going to have to come up with, but that's going to create a higher amount of pissed off people that how many don't like DUI Checkpoints. I just don't see how that would ever be a good solution.

x10 I am a bar manager and we keep a close eye on patrons. If they have had a lot of drinks, or are slurring, walking funny, having trouble focusing, talking loud.. I pretty much always make them either get a cab or call a friend to pick them up. if they fail to comply i call the police.. (only had to do that once) I have also taken a shitload of people home... it kinda comes with the biz because you never know when someone is smashed and builds up the strength to order 1 drink

[71chevellejohn]

I've never heard of any bar or restaurant having a drink limit.

There's a pizza joint out here that won't let you have more than three beers in an hour.

[bcoop]

I've never heard of any bar or restaurant having a drink limit.

Every place has a "policy". It's about how closely they are followed. Wait staff and bartenders don't want to cut you off. If you get cut off, it's because you need to be cut off.

[bcoop]

Sure, spike strips leading out of a bar parking lot. In order to leave the bar, you have to pass a breathalyser test, then the spikes lower. Or you can have it receipt based, number of drinks followed by your weight and the time of drinking them, over the limit and the bar wont let you drive out.

That would be one way of doing it.

Yes. We need more govt involvement. That's the answer to everything. They know how to run shit. Just look at the post office.

[talisman]

Every place has a "policy". It's about how closely they are followed. Wait staff and bartenders don't want to cut you off. If you get cut off, it's because you need to be cut off.

Never been cut off either, and I'm sure several people on here have been there when I was well past any logical limit.