"No refusal weekend"

[Jimbo]

I've never heard of any bar or restaurant having a drink limit.

When you get TABC certified, they used tell you (as a server) that it is your responsibility to be able to judge when your patrons should be cut off. I believe Texas law ultimately hold the establishment responsible, so I'm sure some have a policy regarding that.

[talisman]

When you get TABC certified, they used tell you (as a server) that it is your responsibility to be able to judge when your patrons should be cut off. I believe Texas law ultimately hold the establishment responsible, so I'm sure some have a policy regarding that.

Yep, I used to be TABC certified. Never seen it enforced any where though, specifically with a "You can only drink X amount." I've seen people cut off, but never due to a number.

[bcoop]

The restaurants I worked in all had a three drink limit. But yes, it's up to you to judge when/if they've had enough. I only cut one person off.


I've been cut off countless times though. Lol.

[Lone Sailor]

Somehow, I don't think that officers are stalking the roads where it's mostly residential or hotels. Everywhere I have seen a checkpoint has been near the bar scene. Since you are pulling the statistic card, where are yours showing that the majority of drunk drivers come from restaurants, hotels, and homes?

Also, most restaurants that I have seen have a limit on how many drinks you can order. On that note, there is another way to limit drunk drivers, a drink limit at bars. Three drink limit anywhere they serve alcohol unless you can prove that you have a designated driver.

Personally, I have never set foot in a bar and the extent of my drinking is two beers while watching football. I have been through a DUI checkpoint and I didn't like it one bit.

Hold up, you initially said "No, but you have to admit that the majority of drunk drivers come from bars", then I said "provide me some studies" as in something factual that backs up your statement that shows what you're saying "majority of drunks drivers come from bars" has any substance. Of the places I listed where people drink I never said that is where the majority of the drunk drivers come from, I was simply pointing out that there are a LOT more places other than bars that people consume alcohol and become impaired. You really seemed to be fixated on the bar theme with your responses and that's why I made the follow up response that I did. I don't know the percentages, no clue, but I would be very surprised if there was that big of a gap between drunks at a bar versus drunks anywhere else except at the bar.

[jdgregory84]

Yep, I used to be TABC certified. Never seen it enforced any where though, specifically with a "You can only drink X amount." I've seen people cut off, but never due to a number.

Trudy's in Austin will only let you have two mexican martinis before they cut you off. There's about 8 ounces of liquor in each one. The fucked up thing is that you can drink 1, drink as many beers as you want, but if you have a 2nd mexican martini, they cut you off at that point.

[Treasure Chest]

When you get TABC certified, they used tell you (as a server) that it is your responsibility to be able to judge when your patrons should be cut off. I believe Texas law ultimately hold the establishment responsible, so I'm sure some have a policy regarding that.

El Chico vs. Poole set precedence leading to the Dramshop laws in Texas, establishing that personal accountability doesn't mean shit, and the liability falls on the bar owner, not the drinker. The law is so screwy, that a minor who drinks in a bar and gets injured by their own intoxication can turn around and sue the bar for their own stupidity.

[Big A]

Anyone refusing, is only doing so so save their own ass from a DWI. "Unenalianable (sp) rights doesn't give you a free pass to hide under the constitution when you get caught red-handed. I'd say that a blood draw is better than officer discretion, as has mentioned, there are plenty of ways to fail a feild sobriety test that have nothing to do with drinking.

I was stone sober when I left my cousins place at 11:40 last night, and had I got pulled over for a false light out or whatever, I would have completely complied. If the "shady" cop fails me for the field sobriety test, the blood will come back 100% clean.

I'd rather them pull clean blood, then spend thousands on a lawyer to prove my innocence.

[racrguy]

Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer

This, in a nutshell.

[exlude]

Anyone refusing, is only doing so so save their own ass from a DWI. "Unenalianable (sp) rights doesn't give you a free pass to hide under the constitution when you get caught red-handed. I'd say that a blood draw is better than officer discretion, as has mentioned, there are plenty of ways to fail a feild sobriety test that have nothing to do with drinking.

I was stone sober when I left my cousins place at 11:40 last night, and had I got pulled over for a false light out or whatever, I would have completely complied. If the "shady" cop fails me for the field sobriety test, the blood will come back 100% clean.

I'd rather them pull clean blood, then spend thousands on a lawyer to prove my innocence.

You should be able to refuse the entire package. I had an ex get busted for DUI. She was very upset at the time, and failed the field sobriety test. She passed the breathalyzer and a blood draw at the station but still got stuck with the DUI charge.

[Couver]

It never fails when I am the DD I do not get pulled over. I would love to answer "how many have you had tonight" with 8 or 9 ....... waters

[Broncojohnny]

Anyone refusing, is only doing so so save their own ass from a DWI. "Unenalianable (sp) rights doesn't give you a free pass to hide under the constitution when you get caught red-handed. I'd say that a blood draw is better than officer discretion, as has mentioned, there are plenty of ways to fail a feild sobriety test that have nothing to do with drinking.

I was stone sober when I left my cousins place at 11:40 last night, and had I got pulled over for a false light out or whatever, I would have completely complied. If the "shady" cop fails me for the field sobriety test, the blood will come back 100% clean.

I'd rather them pull clean blood, then spend thousands on a lawyer to prove my innocence.

You need to carefully read what Exlude posted, you'd still spend thousands of dollars proving you aren't drunk if you fail the field sobriety test. Which is the reason why people refuse to take it. I would never take it even if I was stone cold sober because I am at the mercy of one person's opinion. That person could be a complete idiot for all I know.

[talisman]

You need to carefully read what Exlude posted, you'd still spend thousands of dollars proving you aren't drunk if you fail the field sobriety test. Which is the reason why people refuse to take it. I would never take it even if I was stone cold sober because I am at the mercy of one person's opinion. That person could be a complete idiot for all I know.

Doesn't help that PDs are now actively recruiting for lower IQs, and higher IQ'ed people are being told they are "overqualified " lmfao this fucking country...

[Taylor]

Little by little were losing our rights.

As well as our punctuation.

[Taylor]

Doesn't help that PDs are now actively recruiting for lower IQs, and higher IQ'ed people are being told they are "overqualified " lmfao this fucking country...

Pics or it didn't happen.

Also, I don't believe you.

[talisman]

Pics or it didn't happen.

Also, I don't believe you.

One of the top threads in the political forum right now. Hilariously terrifying.