Police get locksmiths to enter homes

[svauto-erotic855]

3. Some friends just need to get Christmas cards. Being an enabler doesn't help.

He is Jewish so I send him cards that say "Merry Fucking Christmas you cheap bastard".

I visit him about every 2 months and what gets me is that they give me less grief going into a Federal Prison then the TSA gives me getting onto a plane.

[talisman]

Nail clippers and shampoo are serious business.

[Cooter]

about to order burglar bomb

[Silverback]

Nail clippers and shampoo are serious business.

Why would you need shampoo, when you are bald? ;b

[talisman]

Oh, everybody got jokez today.

[Unicorn Jeff]

Why would you need shampoo, when you are bald? ;b

Probably because of that forest he's carrying around he keeps gloating about.

[Broncojohnny]

I will tell you what happened and you can take it from there.

My buddy owned a loft downtown and the FBI wanted to talk to him about someone that he knew from serving time with them. They called him and he politely declined to discuss anyone or anything with the agent. The agent decided to show up in person and try to talk to him. I was sitting in the parking lot waiting for my friend to come down stairs to go fishing with me. When he exited the building 2 agents confronted him; once again he refused to talk to them. They told him that they would get a material witness warrant for him and told him that he was not free to go; in the mean time the local PD showed up and one of the agents took my friends house keys from him and gave them to an officer and instructed him to enter my friends house to retrieve his lap top computer. The officer did just that without asking any questions and the FBI discovered information on the computer that got my friend a very long sentence for bank and wire fraud.

My friend has a checkered past and would not be my friend today if I had not known him since the 7th grade. He was also as guilty as hell for what he is now in prison for.

I forgot to ad that they let him go after half an hour or so but they impounded his car (and kept it) and never came up with the warrant that they threatened to get.

Oh so the FBI pointed the fingers at the local PO-lice and the local boys pointed at the FBI. Meanwhile no one has been disciplined or removed from their job and your friend has had his life ruined. Why am I not suprised? I love our system.

[TENGRAM]

Someone who has it to spend.

Can I get $50 off you?

[talisman]

Can I get $50 off you?

No shit. I've got a blown out Chuck Taylor and haven't felt like throwing the scratch around to replace the pair.

[95DRGT]

This same mentality is the one police used during Katrina. "We are coming in your house to save you from a threat. You don't have gas? Tough. We have to make sure." Then they kick down the door (or in this case get a locksmith) and enter to do as they want. Hell when they seized weapons during Katrina and put people out of their homes it was for their 'own good' as well.

Fuck that. If there is a gas problem and I did not ask you to come in, you do not come in. I will handle the reprocussions

Same thing happened post Katrina by Animal Rescue- They entered peoples homes to retrieve dogs and cats at free will often breaking and entering. I understand why they did it but it still doesn't sit well.

[Forever_frost]

Exactly. It shouldn't be done at all and anyone entering a home without warrant or the expressed permission of the homeowner should be shot.

[stevo]

Seriously, I would be very grateful if the cops came around and protected my home from potential disaster. Isn't this exactly the kind of thing police should be doing rather than, say, popping people for dime sacks of weed?

I guess you would be okay with them coming into your house under the assumption of your safety and finding something in your house that they find 'disagreeable', and being able to use it against you for a conviction even if they didn't have a warrant to search for it?

And before you say something about not having anything 'disagreeable' in your house, there have been numerous time that evidence gets manipulated or outright fabricated.

Stevo

[TENGRAM]

I guess you would be okay with them coming into your house under the assumption of your safety and finding something in your house that they find 'disagreeable', and being able to use it against you for a conviction even if they didn't have a warrant to search for it?

And before you say something about not having anything 'disagreeable' in your house, there have been numerous time that evidence gets manipulated or outright fabricated.

Stevo

So, wait... they are going to break into my house to, say, shut the gas off and while they're there they are going to plant evidence? Why would they do that?

How about this scenario: There is a gas leak, the police know about it, but rather than break in without a warrant they just let it go and your house blows up killing your pets and destroying a lifetime of memories in the form of pictures, heirlooms, and other possessions. That would sit well with you?

[Forever_frost]

How about this scenario: There is a gas leak, they shut it off at the street or at the box at the end of the street and put a notice on every door instead of breaking and entering.

[TENGRAM]

How about this scenario: There is a gas leak, they shut it off at the street or at the box at the end of the street and put a notice on every door instead of breaking and entering.

I don't work for the gas company, nor do I fully know the circumstances in this specific situation but I can't imagine why, if that was possible, they would have wasted man hours going in each individual house to turn off the gas.