Iran hacked the GPS on the drone??

[Snatch Napkin]

Having a fairly decent knowledge of GPS I can confirm how easily a slow moving target can be manipulated, if the conditions are right.

However, I'm not sure if the technology in that drone would allow the signal to come from below. This is complete theory, naturally, but the skin of that plane is designed to absorb signal, correct? The signal would need to pass through the skin to get to the receiver. A GPS receiver needs a "line of sight" to the transmitter (satellites) in order to triangulate.

Having said that, we do have some receivers that will "see" through some materials to a very low degree, but a drone would have to be moving at a much slower rate.

I'm guessing that this drone would have been flying around 30,000 ft. The receiver should be on the top, pointing towards the satellites.

Overall, I'm still back and forth with what is really going on with all of it.

[roliath]

I'm shocked that this "hack" has been known and there weren't measures in place to stop this kind of attack on our drone.

I would "hope" that it would phone home every fucking second doing background checks on the data its being fed and its source. Maybe I don't know too much about GPS, but I feel like there is more to the story. An advanced drone like this being taken down with spoofed GPS cord's?

[Gtracer]

Send another one in with minute yet high yield explosive devices. Wait till they have them in the same vicinity. Detonate.

Oh but that would be considered an act of war....its like there are a bunch of lawyers running the world you know...almost apples to apples

[Gtracer]

Having a fairly decent knowledge of GPS I can confirm how easily a slow moving target can be manipulated, if the conditions are right.

However, I'm not sure if the technology in that drone would allow the signal to come from below. This is complete theory, naturally, but the skin of that plane is designed to absorb signal, correct? The signal would need to pass through the skin to get to the receiver. A GPS receiver needs a "line of sight" to the transmitter (satellites) in order to triangulate.

Having said that, we do have some receivers that will "see" through some materials to a very low degree, but a drone would have to be moving at a much slower rate.

I'm guessing that this drone would have been flying around 30,000 ft. The receiver should be on the top, pointing towards the satellites.

Overall, I'm still back and forth with what is really going on with all of it.

Iran has their own satellites....they send "noise" to clutter the GPS hence the drone does not know where it is. I just don’t understand how they tricked it into not reverting back to the original location in which it took off. I would assume this data would be kept on the HDD once the drone takes off. If they did not hack the system then they did not hack the HDD.

I guess this is all we can do....guess
Seeing as none of us know how this drone works and if we did we would be smart not to say anything leaving us with only one option. Take that leap of faith and believe a side or continue to guess.

I just think it is stupid that we would not try to recover/sabotage....

[Nash B.]

They have these councils with laws that state you do not develop this without permission from the masses and yet Iran just laughs.

How much do we (personally, not the United States) respect the United Nations and all their demands to ban guns and other nonsense?

[Nash B.]

Iran has their own satellites....they send "noise" to clutter the GPS hence the drone does not know where it is. I just don’t understand how they tricked it into not reverting back to the original location in which it took off. I would assume this data would be kept on the HDD once the drone takes off. If they did not hack the system then they did not hack the HDD.

They spoofed the GPS coordinates so that it thought it was returning to the original location.

[Snatch Napkin]

Iran has their own satellites....they send "noise" to clutter the GPS hence the drone does not know where it is. I just don’t understand how they tricked it into not reverting back to the original location in which it took off. I would assume this data would be kept on the HDD once the drone takes off. If they did not hack the system then they did not hack the HDD.

I guess this is all we can do....guess
Seeing as none of us know how this drone works and if we did we would be smart not to say anything leaving us with only one option. Take that leap of faith and believe a side or continue to guess.

I just think it is stupid that we would not try to recover/sabotage....

I was thinking they had satellites, but then remembered something about them not being able to get a rocket off the ground and left that thought where it began.

In the article it mentioned using cell towers and such, which is possible if the receiver were on the ground.

Your guess is as good as mine.lol

[A+]

My conspiracy theory, the US let them have it so we have a reason to deploy troops later.

[Snatch Napkin]

Then I found this....

High Sensitivity GPS can provide positioning in many but not all indoor locations. Signals are either heavily attenuated by the building materials or reflected as in multipath. Given that High Sensitivity GPS receivers may be up to 30 dB more sensitive, this is sufficient to track through 3 layers of dry bricks, or up to 20 cm of steel reinforced concrete for example.


It's from WIKI, but it kind of blows my thoughts out of the water. I better not quit my day job with civilian use stuff. lol

[stevo]

When I mentioned this a week ago ( http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21901 ) people basically dismissed it as BS from Iran and said they don't have the technology to do such a thing. I say they have the best scientists that the Iranian oil money can buy, and that the US better pull it's proverbial head out of it's ass and deal with it, before we have some tugboat-launched suitcase nuke heading into New York, Houston or Los Angeles.

"Ron Paul'ing" this situation further will only get millions of Americans killed.

Stevo

[BERNIE MOSFET]

My conspiracy theory, the US let them have it so we have a reason to deploy troops later.

As if weapons of mass destruction weren't pretense enough.

[CJ]

I find it hard to think that we will not retaliate in some way, shape or form

We did. Obama asked for it back.


I can't believe these things don't have some sort of high explosive charge inside of them to destruct in the event something like this happened.

[Snatch Napkin]

As if weapons of mass destruction weren't pretense enough.

It has worked many times before, and there is already a recycled version of the info given to Bush that has been presented to Obama. I want to say I saw it posted in the political forum recently.



EDIT: It did pertain to Iran, though, so maybe they will be used in conjunction.

[A+]

As if weapons of mass destruction weren't pretense enough.

Dont know if serious......

[crapstang]

I'm pretty sure America already said "IRAN HACKS, KICK THEM"
"Hacker, cheats, aimbot, faggot"