No more 3,000mi oil changes says California.

[CJ]

Oil don't wear out it get dirty and looses its additive's.

Excellent post. I can't help but highlight errors.

[irbs]

Its not like places actually make money off of oil changes. Id say on 90% of the oil changes that come through my shop we lose $5 to $10 on average and sometimes more. An oil change is just a service that we offer to keep traffic flow through the shop.

[CJ]

Its not like places actually make money off of oil changes. Id say on 90% of the oil changes that come through my shop we lose $5 to $10 on average and sometimes more. An oil change is just a service that we offer to keep traffic flow through the shop.

I've worked at several shops and can tell you 40-60% of your business originates off of those oil changes. And we didn't lose money on them. And the majority of employees at said shops are doing oil changes.

[03trubluGT]

I run Mobil1 full syn in the 2008 Edge and 2011 F150 and change them at 5k. Mobil says they are good for 7,500 but the oil is dirty by then.

I will spend the extra money as insurance.

[Blackpony]

Shit i change mine about every 2k in the mustang, and 3k in the truck and wifes car. I use motorcraft in all three..

[ZYouL8R]

For once I agree with the hippies. Changing your oil every 3000 miles is obviously unnecessary, and people need to know this. It's always been some sort of conspiracy between oil companies and lube shops to keep uneducated consumers in the dark about this. And people are really bitching about lube shops losing money? LOL! That's like bitching about Phillips losing money because their scheme to have people change out light bulbs every 100 hours is being foiled.

[Ruffdaddy]

And when did those start being implemented? 2003ish? I honestly don't know.

There's got to be ton of cars on the roads that don't contain them. Tons of people don't use synthetics. Tons of people also use the cheapest oil and filters they can get.

Sure, oil and filter technology has progressed from 30 years ago, but I think you're discounting the amount of less than intelligent people out there. How many people drive shitboxes, 30 yr old cars, etc.

I don't see where the govt gets off intervening and affecting small business revenue. I also think liability is an issue. I think the manufacturers should push it, not the govt. 3k mile intervals isn't hurting anyone.

As for my intelligent response, my first post on the subject was just that.

You have some vali points, but you've also got to remember that it's not just the intelligent monitoring that has helped oil change intervals...it's better engine design and tighter manufacturable tolerances. I would guess nearly any vehicle made within the past 20 years will do just fine at a 5K change interval if not more.

My real point is that this will not hurt the economy because people will spend elsewhere. It also wont affect lube shops at a magnitude greater than 15%. and mostly...I don't believe in supporting a business that has only been getting the amount of business they have because of misinformation about change intervals. They are the ones deceiving people...and you hit the nail on the head when you mention the amount of clueless people out there. Anytime I've actually gotten my oil changes they've slapped a 3K sticker regardless of my increased interval.

[Ruffdaddy]

You're ignoring the point. Right now, if you want to change your oil at 7,500, or 10k you can. And, it's cheaper for you to do that. If you want to change your oil at 3k you can, and it's cheaper. If this went into law, if you wanted to change your oil at 7,500 or 10k it would be more expensive. And if you wanted to change your oil at 3k you couldn't. The proposed mandate would take freedoms, make life more expensive, lose jobs, and cause other states to pay for it. I don't support the idea.

Wait wait wait...did I read something wrong or did you? All I read was an awareness campaign not a law dictating oil changes. It seems they want people to know what the manufacturer suggests.

[Hmbre97]

You're ignoring the point. Right now, if you want to change your oil at 7,500, or 10k you can. And, it's cheaper for you to do that. If you want to change your oil at 3k you can, and it's cheaper. If this went into law, if you wanted to change your oil at 7,500 or 10k it would be more expensive. And if you wanted to change your oil at 3k you couldn't. The proposed mandate would take freedoms, make life more expensive, lose jobs, and cause other states to pay for it. I don't support the idea.

If what went into law? They aren't passing anything into law... did you even read the whole article? They are just passing a mandate to launch an ad campaign to let people know that the 3k oil change rule isn't valid anymore. They aren't forcing people to do anything.

As for my intelligent response, my first post on the subject was just that.

No, it wasn't. You went off on a tirade about some crazy trickle down effect if lube shop revenue is cut in half and it apparently would cost other tax payers in other states money. That's just fucking stupid.

Let's say John Q. Public gets 4 oil changes a year @ $40 a pop = $160 total. Now he realizes he doesn't need to do that so cuts it down to 2 a year. The net difference is $80 that he is saving. Now he will take that $80 he saved and go spend it on something else and the govt will get their cut of that revenue. The govt will be getting their share no matter what.

Worst case scenario, the lube shop makes a little less money and lays off a oil change monkey who will just go find another unskilled position (positions created by increased spending in other segments thanks to the extra money in John Q. Public's pocket).

If anything, we'd be sending less money to oil rich nations since we wouldn't have to import as much oil and keeping it here in our country. One could argue this would HELP our economy.

[71chevellejohn]

I average between 8-10k on my oil changes(factory oil meter recommendation), running synthetic in my 08 GMC with 170k miles and haven't had any problems.

When my mustang was running, I used to change it every 2k miles because of the abuse I put it through(nitrous, race fuel, etc).

[Baba Ganoush]

Slippery slope!





What's next? The government telling me to change my underwear everyday!?!?

[2011GT]

I run penz ultra in the camry and change it every 10k or 12 months.

[Lone Sailor]

It's a good thing they came out with that recycled oil. That will be a God send to the State of California. I can see it now, every street corner there will be a guy with a crescent wrench, a scissor jack, an aluminum baking pan from Walmart, and some milk jugs full of old oil trying to get people to let them change their oil in the parking lot of Big Lots.

I run Mobil1 full syn in the 2008 Edge and 2011 F150 and change them at 5k. Mobil says they are good for 7,500 but the oil is dirty by then.

I will spend the extra money as insurance.

Get out of here with that common sense approach. BAH!!

[LS1Goat]

wow. i actually agree with the state of california on a policy issue. this is an odd feeling.

[CJ]

Wait wait wait...did I read something wrong or did you? All I read was an awareness campaign not a law dictating oil changes. It seems they want people to know what the manufacturer suggests.

The last 3 campaigns California launched against automobiles ended in legislation according to jalopnik.