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    Kalifornia ftw

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    • #3
      <---------------guilty


      Most I will go inbetween oil changes is 4,000 miles. I start feeling bad after 3,500 lol.

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      • #4
        i don't know, i feel the article was about right.

        "Car guys" are going to change their oil whenever we damn well please, but for your average motorist who never sees above 3500rpm? They don't need to change their oil every 3000 miles.

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        • #5
          I change the oil every 3000 for the first several intervals on a new car or rebuilt engine and then go to every 5000.

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          • #6
            5000 miles with base oil, or 7500 with synthetic under typical driving conditions. Anyone that recommends more than that is full of shit IMO. When you start getting into older cars where the rings are letting more and more unburned gas into the oil, that number starts taking an nose dive. I don't see how they are "wasting" the oil since it all goes back to recycling centers anyway.

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            • #7
              Well, think of it this way, if the average owner gets an oil change every 3,000 miles, and they want to change it to 7,500... that will essentially cut every lube shop's business in half. Not to mention the cascade effect and drop in oil consumption. This is why California's business growth has been negative and dropping exponentially for 5 years in a row. And guess what? We (the responsible states) are bailing them out.
              "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
              "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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              • #8
                I think I'm on like 15k right now, only because I'm lazy.

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                • #9
                  On a side note. The railroad stopped doing scheduled oil changes on their locomotives 3 years ago. They heavily filter the oil and run oil analysis' every so many months. When they started this I thought it was all bs and them just trying to save a buck on oil changes, but maybe they are right.


                  Then about 2 weeks ago I blew one up lol. We where rolling along at about 50mph when it sounded like a shotgun went off inside the cab. Lost all power and when I looked back all I saw was oil coming out the doors and exhaust. We come to a stop and when I get her opened up there was a huge hole in side of the block and crank case along with several small fires. I buzzed up train management to tell them in all their wisdom we were dead in the water. Even though we had 3 engines the other two wouldn't start because one was out of fuel and the other had dead batteries. They asked what the problem was and being sarcastic I told them the engine was out of oil and to send a tow truck. They then asked if I came to the conclusion of the engine being out of oil by looking at the dipstick. I just laughed and said this isn't your minivan these things don't have dipsticks and told them I could tell it was out of oil because I could see daylight in the bottom of the crankcase. There was a long silence and then I was asked what a crankcase was. I lost it at this point and just said we ain't moving until someone brings us a another locomotive. Sat there for 8hrs lol. Got to love management.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 90GT50 View Post
                    I think I'm on like 15k right now, only because I'm lazy.
                    lol. that's just asking for a problem.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                      5000 miles with base oil, or 7500 with synthetic under typical driving conditions. Anyone that recommends more than that is full of shit IMO. When you start getting into older cars where the rings are letting more and more unburned gas into the oil, that number starts taking an nose dive. I don't see how they are "wasting" the oil since it all goes back to recycling centers anyway.
                      BMW recommends 12000 miles or one year, whichever comes first. They do all my services. I doubt they would exaggerate since they would be responsible for any damages to my engine in the warranty period.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lo3oz View Post
                        lol. that's just asking for a problem.
                        1st oil change on the built motor.

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                        • #13
                          Most new cars have 7,500-10,000 mile oil change intervals. If you are changing your oil at 3,000 miles on your stock 2v you're wasting oil.

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                          • #14
                            You mean those guys at the stealership aren't telling the truth? Well that's just crazy talk!
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sgt Beavis View Post
                              BMW recommends 12000 miles or one year, whichever comes first. They do all my services. I doubt they would exaggerate since they would be responsible for any damages to my engine in the warranty period.
                              The BMW have direct injection? If so it's going to have much less fuel being sprayed into the cylinder, thus less seeping by the rings, so yeah I could see 12000 miles on that type of engine. I am referring to the traditional style fuel injection systems.

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