No more 3,000mi oil changes says California.

[A_A_G]

The last 3 campaigns California launched against automobiles ended in legislation according to jalopnik.

So you're ok with wasting a finite resource and taking people for their money? That's all I've gotten from your posts in this thread.

[CJ]

So you're ok with wasting a finite resource and taking people for their money? That's all I've gotten from your posts in this thread.

lol what the hell do you do with fuel? Ridiculous comparison. So what you're saying is you're okay with the government saying you're not capable of making oil change decisions for yourself?

[streetdemon70]

i go btwn 7500-10k miles before oil changes in my silverado. I run synthetic in my truck. I also drive 100 miles a day all highway, and my truck is nearly bone stock.

[A_A_G]

lol what the hell do you do with fuel? Ridiculous comparison. So what you're saying is you're okay with the government saying you're not capable of making oil change decisions for yourself?

I use as little fuel as possible by driving a 4 cylinder and keep driving to a minimum. I change my oil at 5-6k with dino and 10-11k with synthetic so Im doing my part to conserve.

Im ok with the government telling people these lube shops are taking them for a ride with there 3k oil change interval BS. This isnt 1970, engines are more efficient and oil/filters are more durable to allow you to extend oil changes.

[CJ]

I use as little fuel as possible by driving a 4 cylinder and keep driving to a minimum. I change my oil at 5-6k with dino and 10-11k with synthetic so Im doing my part to conserve.

Im ok with the government telling people these lube shops are taking them for a ride with there 3k oil change interval BS. This isnt 1970, engines are more efficient and oil/filters are more durable to allow you to extend oil changes.

You have the freedom to do whatever you want. You have the freedom to overpay for any product in the world. What prospective legislation would do is remove your ability to make decisions for yourself. You are okay with giving up that freedom, and allowing the government to tell you that you're incapable of making this decision for yourself.

[A_A_G]

You have the freedom to do whatever you want.

Actually you cant

You have the freedom to overpay for any product in the world. What prospective legislation would do is remove your ability to make decisions for yourself. You are okay with giving up that freedom, and allowing the government to tell you that you're incapable of making this decision for yourself.

Overpaying and taking someone's money because you are giving them false information are two different things.

[mikec]

...I don't believe in supporting a business that has only been getting the amount of business they have because of misinformation about change intervals. They are the ones deceiving people...and you hit the nail on the head when you mention the amount of clueless people out there. Anytime I've actually gotten my oil changes they've slapped a 3K sticker regardless of my increased interval.

After having worked in the retail automotive sector there is no way in hell I would take my vehicle anywhere but the dealer, and even they can be as bad as the average shop.

If people had any idea how deeply these shops dick them they'd lose sleep at night.

[CJ]

Actually you cant



Overpaying and taking someone's money because you are giving them false information are two different things.

So this is your explaining for losing a freedom. I am always fascinated in seeing peoples explanations.

[mikeb]

The need for 3000 mile oil changes went away because:

1. No more carburetors
2. Oil has improved a ton in the last 20 years or so
3. Engine tolerances are tighter now than they were 20 years ago
4. Engines run a little hotter now than 20 years ago
5. Engines have rollerized valvetrains now

If you have a severe duty application then you might need a more frequent OCI.

I'm mixed in my feelings about cali's cracking down on more frequent OCIs. I agree that it's a waste of resources, but it's also an infringement on our individual rights and liberties.

[A_A_G]

So this is your explaining for losing a freedom. I am always fascinated in seeing peoples explanations.

Did you feel like you lost your freedom when catalytic converters and seat belts were required on your vehicle?

I don't see it as losing freedom. It's more of taking a stance on educating people to conserve a non-replenishable resource. The dependency on oil continues to rise and the process to find and extract it only becomes more difficult.

[CJ]

The need for 3000 mile oil changes went away because:

1. No more carburetors
2. Oil has improved a ton in the last 20 years or so
3. Engine tolerances are tighter now than they were 20 years ago
4. Engines run a little hotter now than 20 years ago
5. Engines have rollerized valvetrains now

If you have a severe duty application then you might need a more frequent OCI.

I'm mixed in my feelings about cali's cracking down on more frequent OCIs. I agree that it's a waste of resources, but it's also an infringement on our individual rights and liberties.

The carb is a great point as well.

[Ruffdaddy]

So this is your explaining for losing a freedom. I am always fascinated in seeing peoples explanations.

No one is remotely close to losing a freedom dude. There are tons of awareness campaigns that don't take freedoms. Smoking for one...if you want to wreck your body smoking you can but the govt wants you aware. I still can't believe you're against an awareness program.

[ZYouL8R]

What reedoms are being taken away? They're not requiring anyone to do anything. They're conducting a campaign to educate the people. I'm all for small govt, but I don't see how this goes against that.

[SSMAN]

I change mine about every 2 years regardless of mileage.

[mikeb]

What reedoms are being taken away? They're not requiring anyone to do anything. They're conducting a campaign to educate the people. I'm all for small govt, but I don't see how this goes against that.

You are right - i skimmed an earlier article earlier and i thought it said that cali was going to "crack down" on people changing their oil too often. Failure to read and comprehend on my part.