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  • Originally posted by The Geofster View Post
    No way on murder charges, and any judge in his/her right mind would throw out a civil suit immediately. Or am I completely naive and disconnected with the real world by expecting logic and understanding from people?
    guess again.

    god bless.
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    • I'd hate to have been teeing off on hole #15 when the collision happened.
      Men have become the tools of their tools.
      -Henry David Thoreau

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      • Originally posted by The Geofster View Post
        No way on murder charges, and any judge in his/her right mind would throw out a civil suit immediately. Or am I completely naive and disconnected with the real world by expecting logic and understanding from people?
        Not a chance. Its what we would LIKE to happen, but I highly doubt it.

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        • Originally posted by The Geofster View Post
          No way on murder charges, and any judge in his/her right mind would throw out a civil suit immediately. Or am I completely naive and disconnected with the real world by expecting logic and understanding from people?
          If the facts as we know them are true (i.e. victim was just a good Samaritan) and that's all, my guess is that you probably won't be charged, and if so, it could very well be no-billed. As for the civil side of it, it wouldn't get thrown out, regardless of how silly that sounds. It would either settle or go to trial - probably no other options. Most judges in and around this area aren't going to grant a motion (i.e. Motion for Summary Judgment) throwing a case like this out/dismissing with prejudice. There will always be a fact issue for the judge or jury to decide as to whether the defendant acted reasonably based on the situation. It would come down to a verdict from the judge or jury after hearing all of the evidence at trial. Do I think the person would get tagged with a judgment? Not likely, but anything can happen in a trial.

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          • Originally posted by BERNIE MOSFET View Post
            I'd hate to have been teeing off on hole #15 when the collision happened.
            No shit.

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            • Originally posted by Gear_Jammer View Post
              If the facts as we know them are true (i.e. victim was just a good Samaritan) and that's all, my guess is that you probably won't be charged, and if so, it could very well be no-billed. As for the civil side of it, it wouldn't get thrown out, regardless of how silly that sounds. It would either settle or go to trial - probably no other options. Most judges in and around this area aren't going to grant a motion (i.e. Motion for Summary Judgment) throwing a case like this out/dismissing with prejudice. There will always be a fact issue for the judge or jury to decide as to whether the defendant acted reasonably based on the situation. It would come down to a verdict from the judge or jury after hearing all of the evidence at trial. Do I think the person would get tagged with a judgment? Not likely, but anything can happen in a trial.

              And that means you would have to have a lawyer to keep you from getting raped, which means you would have to shell out.

              So, ten grand per bullet, regardless of guilt.

              What's a rough guess on representation outlay, Dewey?
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              • The news just now is saying he had no alcohol in his system. Was Robert right with his PCP guess???
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                • Hard to imagine anyone being that fucking crazy without benefit of liquor.
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                  • Originally posted by mikec View Post
                    The news just now is saying he had no alcohol in his system. Was Robert right with his PCP guess???
                    NBC said he was charged with, umong other things, intoxication manslaughter and being held on 550k bond. They also found some weed in the truck. What a dipshit.
                    Last edited by Baba Ganoush; 12-15-2011, 06:05 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Gear_Jammer View Post
                      If the facts as we know them are true (i.e. victim was just a good Samaritan) and that's all, my guess is that you probably won't be charged, and if so, it could very well be no-billed. As for the civil side of it, it wouldn't get thrown out, regardless of how silly that sounds. It would either settle or go to trial - probably no other options. Most judges in and around this area aren't going to grant a motion (i.e. Motion for Summary Judgment) throwing a case like this out/dismissing with prejudice. There will always be a fact issue for the judge or jury to decide as to whether the defendant acted reasonably based on the situation. It would come down to a verdict from the judge or jury after hearing all of the evidence at trial. Do I think the person would get tagged with a judgment? Not likely, but anything can happen in a trial.
                      What's with all this lawyer speak?

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                      • Originally posted by Dave View Post
                        NBC said he was charged with, umong other things, intoxication manslaughter and being held on 550k bond. They also found some weed in the truck. What a dipshit.
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                        Last edited by krazy kris; 12-15-2011, 10:02 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
                          What's with all this lawyer speak?
                          Not sure if you're serious or not, but Dewey is a lawyer.
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                          • Originally posted by mikec View Post
                            And that means you would have to have a lawyer to keep you from getting raped, which means you would have to shell out.

                            So, ten grand per bullet, regardless of guilt.

                            What's a rough guess on representation outlay, Dewey?
                            That's a tough one to answer because there are so many variables. I've never handled a wrongful death case, but I do know there's usually a bunch of work that has to be done to get it ready for a jury trial. It's the same way for any big money case. The $10k a bullet guess is probably off by quite a bit. If you had a competent and reasonably priced attorney ($250-$450 per hour - I know I'm going to catch shit about that statement), my guess is you could easily spend $30-40K in fees, if not more. The real kick in the teeth is that a defendant is usually not entitled to have the plaintiff reimburse them for those fees even if the defendant wins the lawsuit. How you like them apples? Isn't our legal system great?

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                            • Originally posted by mikec View Post
                              Not sure if you're serious or not, but Dewey is a lawyer.
                              Waz not SRS. And I know.

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                              • Originally posted by Gear_Jammer View Post
                                That's a tough one to answer because there are so many variables. I've never handled a wrongful death case, but I do know there's usually a bunch of work that has to be done to get it ready for a jury trial. It's the same way for any big money case. The $10k a bullet guess is probably off by quite a bit. If you had a competent and reasonably priced attorney ($250-$450 per hour - I know I'm going to catch shit about that statement), my guess is you could easily spend $30-40K in fees, if not more. The real kick in the teeth is that a defendant is usually not entitled to have the plaintiff reimburse them for those fees even if the defendant wins the lawsuit. How you like them apples? Isn't our legal system great?
                                And it's a sad day in this Country, when I willingly will not draw my .357 because I don't have the money to defend myself against LEGAL actions and SAVING another person's life.

                                Like mentioned above, gun will stay in its holster unless me or my family is in jeapordy.

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