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No shit, lets bring back catapults and trebuchets.as concerns arose in Washington that the $153 million F-22 was too costly and too high-tech for its own good.
StevoOriginally posted by SSMAN...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.
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better than the f35 we will bring it back eventually if called upon
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damn, when all said almost 300 million dollars a plane. wow!Comment
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LOL @ going to the 'cheaper' F35. The F35 project has been the most budget overrun disasters of all time. They are not even halfway through all the code yet!"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser TytlerComment
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Only in Washington can something be deemed too high tech.Comment
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Japan and Australia wanted to buy in and we told them no.
mean while Russia and China are in the game.
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Sheeeit! I'd sell Japan and Australia anything they wanted. Strategic partnership, FTMFW.Originally posted by ALLAN View PostJapan and Australia wanted to buy in and we told them no.
mean while Russia and China are in the game.ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! hehComment
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Damn, I was at LM back in 98 when they were first showing them off and I understood they had been designing them a good 10yrs before that.Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View PostComment
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dis-as-ter.Originally posted by Frank View Post"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser TytlerComment
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Let's hope we don't land one in Iran's backyard 100% intact in the near future. We have a pretty shitty record with our top secret technology lately.Comment
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Agreed. From what I have heard in the aviation world, UAV's are the next biggest and cheapest thing for our front line fighters.as concerns arose in Washington that the $153 million F-22 was too costly and too high-tech for its own good.
Right now the stumbling block is the ethics of an unmanned aircraft fighting vs manned.
I say get over it and let the UAV's have at it! Some of the things I have heard they can do is amazing!
Packs of UAV's capable of Mach 2+ pulling 50+g's in turns and hunting in clusters talking to each other with air to air/air to ground capabilities! A "cluster" would have the ability to fight air and ground multiple (50+ targets) at a time! Now that is a scary thought.
Way cheaper than a F-22 and much more all weather,shoot down ability.Comment
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Unmanned aircraft is the future.
"Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron SwansonComment
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F-22 is a flying piece of disastrous engineering.
On average, it has a critical system failure every 1.7 hours.
That plane is a sack of dogshit.
The United States' top fighter jet, the Lockheed Martin F-22, has recently required more than 30 hours of maintenance for every hour in the skies, pushing its hourly cost of flying to more than $44,000, a far higher figure than for the warplane it replaces, confidential Pentagon test results show.
The aircraft's radar-absorbing metallic skin is the principal cause of its maintenance troubles, with unexpected shortcomings -- such as vulnerability to rain and other abrasion -- challenging Air Force and contractor technicians since the mid-1990s, according to Pentagon officials, internal documents and a former engineer.
While most aircraft fleets become easier and less costly to repair as they mature, key maintenance trends for the F-22 have been negative in recent years, and on average from October last year to this May, just 55 percent of the deployed F-22 fleet has been available to fulfill missions guarding U.S. airspace, the Defense Department acknowledged this week. The F-22 has never been flown over Iraq or Afghanistan.
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"It is a disgrace that you can fly a plane [an average of] only 1.7 hours before it gets a critical failure" that jeopardizes success of the aircraft's mission, said a Defense Department critic of the plane who is not authorized to speak on the record. Other skeptics inside the Pentagon note that the planes, designed 30 years ago to combat a Cold War adversary, have cost an average of $350 million apiece and say they are not a priority in the age of small wars and terrorist threats.
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A spokeswoman for Lockheed added that the F-22 has "unmatched capabilities, sustainability and affordability" and that any problems are being resolved in close coordination with the Air Force.
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Darrol Olsen, a specialist in stealth coatings who worked at Lockheed's testing laboratory in Marietta, Ga., from 1995 to 1999, said the current troubles are unsurprising. In a lawsuit filed under seal in 2007, he charged the company with violating the False Claims Act for ordering and using coatings that it knew were defective while hiding the failings from the Air Force.
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The plane's million-dollar radar-absorbing canopy has also caused problems, with a stuck hatch imprisoning a pilot for hours in 2006 and engineers unable to extend the canopy's lifespan beyond about 18 months of flying time. It delaminates, "loses its strength and finish," said an official privy to Air Force data.
In the interview, Ahern and Air Force Gen. C.D. Moore confirmed that canopy visibility has been declining more rapidly than expected, with brown spots and peeling forcing $120,000 refurbishments at 331 hours of flying time, on average, instead of the stipulated 800 hours.Full time ninja editor.Comment
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Don't worry Obama has this, he will just invite Iran over for a beer and ask for it back nicely.Originally posted by dmh165638 View Post
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