No Front Plate Ticket?

[G..]

They use the front plate as a target for the radar/laser to reflect from...
Remember, radar doesn't return good off the swoopy-doopy aero shape most of us drive these days. (Don't see no front license plate on a B2 do ya'?...)

that's' one of the real reasons they want it on there.

mardyn

Not at all. Radar is more like a dopler radar. It broadcast a beam that is bounced off whatever is moving. Lidar is only needed to hit something. Front plates are soley for identification purposes. Stupid but a requirment non the less.

[mikec]

boosh?

god bless.

Boosh!

Several very good posts in this thread. And the revenue generation aspect of it is total bullshit. Fines have grown to the point of absurdity, in that I don't think it's possible to get a ticket that costs less than $100 (aside from the 18" rule on parking)...

And from what I've read they use headlights for aiming lasers as they are highly reflective as well.

[GhostTX]

Thats not a requirement to pass a safety or emmissions insp. I doubt you got failed for that. Maybe a light not working since thats what causes a rapid flash. So improper functioning safety equipment i would believe

No, they doinked her for the turn signal during the state inspection, wouldn't give her the sticker. I traced it out and it was her hazard switch going bad that caused the intermittent blinking.

[A_A_G]

No, they doinked her for the turn signal during the state inspection, wouldn't give her the sticker. I traced it out and it was her hazard switch going bad that caused the intermittent blinking.

I got failed because my wipers were "noisy"....Had to walk across the street to buy another pair to replace the ones that were working just fine before they'd put the sticker on the windshield.

[mikec]

I got failed because my wipers were "noisy"....Had to walk across the street to buy another pair to replace the ones that were working just fine before they'd put the sticker on the windshield.

Statute only covers torn (>1") wiper blades. Next time they try shit like that make them break the blue book out and show you.

[G..]

I got failed because my wipers were "noisy"....Had to walk across the street to buy another pair to replace the ones that were working just fine before they'd put the sticker on the windshield.

Your wipers have to swipe with out skipping or jumping. You could have a hole in the windshield or even not have a windshield. As long as the wipers move smooth. Stupid but law.

[mikec]

Your wipers have to swipe with out skipping or jumping. You could have a hole in the windshield or even not have a windshield. As long as the wipers move smooth. Stupid but law.

That's subjective as hell. The only hope there is that you say skipping or jumping constitutes B or G.

2. Inspect for and reject if:

a. Vehicle is not equipped with the number of wipers with which it was originally equipped.

b. Wiper is inoperative, does not operate freely, or is improperly adjusted.

c. Wiper blades have damaged, hardened, or badly worn rubber elements.

d. The portion of the rubber element that contacts the windshield is torn more than one inch on one end or is torn a total of one inch on both ends.

e. Any part of the rubber element is torn loose from the metal backing or blade base.

f. Metal parts of wiper blades or arms are damaged or come in contact with the windshield.

g. Wiper is incapable of adequately cleaning the windshield.

h. Wiper blades are not making proper contact with windshield.

i. Wiper controls are not operating properly or are located beyond the driver’s reach.

NOTE: The rear window is not considered a windshield and any wiper present on the rear window is not an item of inspection.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/inspection/rules_list.asp?itemdrop=Windshield+Wipers&rejectsubmit=Go

[03trubluGT]

I actually argued this exact point with a sheriff. While his stance on it was that the plate exists for public safety, my stance was that the department is more-or-less revenue collecting ballwashers harassing nearly innocent bystanders.. I then asked him to define public safety and it.

Yeah, I got a ticket but that was happening regardless. I'll pay the 1.45 no-plate tickets I average every 5 years. It's a trade-off.

This is so stupid it's pathetic.

The front plate is a means to identify the vehicle just like the back plate, but people don't bitch and moan about that.

The front plate is designed to break off, have you ever wondered why the bracket is so damned flimsy?

I helped work a hit and run a couple of weeks ago at Miller/287 where someone whacked a telephone pole and drove off. Guess what, the LP was left on the scene. Not to hard to follow the trail on that one.....

Oh, and in before the "front plate detracts from the asthetics of the car" B.S. The back plate does just as much "detracting", but again, no one bitches about that.

[A_A_G]

This is so stupid it's pathetic.

The front plate is a means to identify the vehicle just like the back plate, but people don't bitch and moan about that.

The front plate is designed to break off, have you ever wondered why the bracket is so damned flimsy?

I helped work a hit and run a couple of weeks ago at Miller/287 where someone whacked a telephone pole and drove off. Guess what, the LP was left on the scene. Not to hard to follow the trail on that one.....

Oh, and in before the "front plate detracts from the asthetics of the car" B.S. The back plate does just as much "detracting", but again, no one bitches about that.

This. Plus there are aftermarket brackets that allow you to relocate the LP so you don't have to drill holes in your bumper.

[G..]

Do you have a license? S.I

That's subjective as hell. The only hope there is that you say skipping or jumping constitutes B or G.

2. Inspect for and reject if:

a. Vehicle is not equipped with the number of wipers with which it was originally equipped.

b. Wiper is inoperative, does not operate freely, or is improperly adjusted.

c. Wiper blades have damaged, hardened, or badly worn rubber elements.

d. The portion of the rubber element that contacts the windshield is torn more than one inch on one end or is torn a total of one inch on both ends.

e. Any part of the rubber element is torn loose from the metal backing or blade base.

f. Metal parts of wiper blades or arms are damaged or come in contact with the windshield.

g. Wiper is incapable of adequately cleaning the windshield.

h. Wiper blades are not making proper contact with windshield.

i. Wiper controls are not operating properly or are located beyond the driver’s reach.

NOTE: The rear window is not considered a windshield and any wiper present on the rear window is not an item of inspection.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/insp...ejectsubmit=Go

[talisman]

A lot of hit and runs going on in 1926, Matt?

[Rick Modena]

A lot of hit and runs going on in 1926, Matt?

Don't listen to him, hes ALWAYS going to side with the brotherhood, no matter how cool everyone thinks he is.

To the OP, I've recieved numerous NFP tickets, mostly in Plano. I can only talk about them, but I can tell you to have it dismissed it has to be mounted to the front bumper, cover, how you mount it is usually not important. In Plano they will dismiss the ticket but they will still charge you a $10.00 adminstrative fee and they will go outside and check it.

[Broncojohnny]

Don't listen to him, hes ALWAYS going to side with the brotherhood, no matter how cool everyone thinks he is.

To the OP, I've recieved numerous NFP tickets, mostly in Plano. I can only talk about them, but I can tell you to have it dismissed it has to be mounted to the front bumper, cover, how you mount it is usually not important. In Plano they will dismiss the ticket but they will still charge you a $10.00 adminstrative fee and they will go outside and check it.

Sounds like a great use of time for the city employees.

[Rick Modena]

Sounds like a great use of time for the city employees.

The last time I went up to PPD headquarters was about three years ago, for this exact ticket. I had just picked up my car at HPP and Plano's finest pulled me over for expired inspection sticker (it expired while at HPP) and no front plate. Of course the he also gave me a ticket for expired insurance card, you know I hardly drive the Cobra anymore. I went to pay it after I got it inspected and "mounted" the front plate back on. They charged me $10.00 for the NFP and $10.00 for the dismisal of the Inspection sticker, the latter I had to go back up there two more times but I finally got it dimissed. That in it self was an ordeal, but thats when I learned the PD's are nothing more than revenue generators, no matter what Matt sez on this website...

[mikec]

Do you have a license? S.I

It's expired now, but yes, I did, when I was a service manager for one of the large chains. My shop was honest as hell and people routinely brought friends in for that reason. From what I saw in that industry the shops that failed people for shit like that were the ones that had managers after every dime, pushing stuff like that, power steering flushes, fuel system treatments, and other snake oil BS designed to only increase the bottom line.

And when the license was active I wouldn't bust anyones balls on BS like that when it is so subjective and open to your interpretation of the code. Torn an inch, failed. As for the skipping part I never had any inspectors actually turn the danged things on. And in class the instructors never said anything at all about that. They taught to look for torn blades, tint too dark, etc. but never to actually turn them on...