american airlines is bankrupt

[Chas_svo]

The unions are not the problem. Facts are we have some of the lowest pay and benefits in the industry.

But your union bosses don't have that same problem.

[Broncojohnny]

It is about time. I can't stand most airlines, the customer service is horrible, the employees are bitchy and the price to fly is ridiculous. Of course pretty much all of that is because of government regulation, airlines are a terrible business.

[2011GT]

You'd think with their damn baggage fee's they would have plenty of cash set aside.

American has over 4 billion in the bank.

[2011GT]

It is about time. I can't stand most airlines, the customer service is horrible, the employees are bitchy and the price to fly is ridiculous. Of course pretty much all of that is because of government regulation, airlines are a terrible business.

The airlines haven't been regulated since the mid 70s.

[Rotortrash]

The unions are not the problem. Facts are we have some of the lowest pay and benefits in the industry.

If it sucks so bad, the people bitching about it should go find a new job.

It really pisses me off the folks that work for the Airlines think that they are owed somthing. Guys walking around doing nothing drawing $50-60K a year or more from a company thats going bust, all the while bitching that they're under paid. Every job I've ever had retirement was my responsibility, not the company's. As far as pay, yeah, I want more. Don't we all? I knew what the pay was in my career field before I got in. If you want more money, choose a different career field. Do I agree with managment getting bonuses? No, but thats the way its been since the airline began, its not going to change. The union managment makes big bucks too, guess where that money comes from? I don't hear anyone bitching about union managment pay.

If folks are paid to do a job, they should shut up and do it. If they're not happy at their job, they should go find a new one. If they want more money, they should change to a higher paying profession, or start their own business.

Sorry, I'll get off my soap box now.

[Bassics]

The airlines haven't been regulated since the mid 70s.

What would you call the FAA? An advisory committee? What would you call the Wright Amendment? A suggestion? LOL!

[BERNIE MOSFET]

I'm flying American tonight. Hopefully my plane doesn't crash like their stock price.

[beefed88]

American has over 4 billion in the bank.

Do you work in the hangars?

[2011GT]

Do you work in the hangars?

Yes, I'm maintenance.

[2011GT]

If it sucks so bad, the people bitching about it should go find a new job.

It really pisses me off the folks that work for the Airlines think that they are owed somthing. Guys walking around doing nothing drawing $50-60K a year or more from a company thats going bust, all the while bitching that they're under paid. Every job I've ever had retirement was my responsibility, not the company's. As far as pay, yeah, I want more. Don't we all? I knew what the pay was in my career field before I got in. If you want more money, choose a different career field. Do I agree with managment getting bonuses? No, but thats the way its been since the airline began, its not going to change. The union managment makes big bucks too, guess where that money comes from? I don't hear anyone bitching about union managment pay.

If folks are paid to do a job, they should shut up and do it. If they're not happy at their job, they should go find a new one. If they want more money, they should change to a higher paying profession, or start their own business.

Sorry, I'll get off my soap box now.

Walking around doing nothing? May I ask what you do and your rate of pay. Do you feel like you are being paid less then you should be for the amount of work and responsibility? Do you constantly perform work that the quality of craftsmanship is held to an extreme standard to keep 1000's of people safe per day? Did you know if I don't perform maintenance to the T of the maintenance manual ONE time I could possibly have my license pulled and never be able to touch a plane again? Did you know if I ever fuck up and a passenger is hurt or killed I can serve life in prison? Guess what? Also I only made 40k last year, before taxes with about 150 hours of ot.

[Broncojohnny]

Walking around doing nothing? May I ask what you do and your rate of pay. Do you feel like you are being paid less then you should be for the amount of work and responsibility? Do you constantly perform work that the quality of craftsmanship is held to an extreme standard to keep 1000's of people safe per day? Did you know if I don't perform maintenance to the T of the maintenance manual ONE time I could possibly have my license pulled and never be able to touch a plane again? Did you know if I ever fuck up and a passenger is hurt or killed I can serve life in prison? Guess what? Also I only made 40k last year, before taxes with about 150 hours of ot.

Sounds like you need to get a new job.

[exlude]

Walking around doing nothing? May I ask what you do and your rate of pay. Do you feel like you are being paid less then you should be for the amount of work and responsibility? Do you constantly perform work that the quality of craftsmanship is held to an extreme standard to keep 1000's of people safe per day? Did you know if I don't perform maintenance to the T of the maintenance manual ONE time I could possibly have my license pulled and never be able to touch a plane again? Did you know if I ever fuck up and a passenger is hurt or killed I can serve life in prison? Guess what? Also I only made 40k last year, before taxes with about 150 hours of ot.

Yeah, sometimes I fantasize that my job is a lot more important than it really is too.

[Silverback]

Sounds like you need to get a new job.

exactly, that job sucks balls

[2011GT]

Yeah, sometimes I fantasize that my job is a lot more important than it really is too.

And yet when I say no mustard, you still put it on my burger! Dumbass.

[bcoop]

Walking around doing nothing? May I ask what you do and your rate of pay. Do you feel like you are being paid less then you should be for the amount of work and responsibility? Do you constantly perform work that the quality of craftsmanship is held to an extreme standard to keep 1000's of people safe per day? Did you know if I don't perform maintenance to the T of the maintenance manual ONE time I could possibly have my license pulled and never be able to touch a plane again? Did you know if I ever fuck up and a passenger is hurt or killed I can serve life in prison? Guess what? Also I only made 40k last year, before taxes with about 150 hours of ot.

You knew the pay going in to it. Go work for another company, or find a new profession. It's not the company's fault you think you are underpaid. If you aren't paid fair rates for that profession, you can always go work for a competitor. I'm thinking you aren't under paid at all, that your rate is industry standard. In which case, you knew the pay going in, and should choose another profession. Nobody I'd holding a gun to your head.


I'm just spitballin here, but what's your views on the Occupy movement?