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    I'm doing a business proposal for my company, and I'm having some difficulty coming up with some solid articles or research performed showing like vehicles in comparison to their long term maintenance with gas and diesel engines. I'm certain Diesels are cheaper in the long run, but it's hard finding conclusive research data for it. Is anyone aware of any websites, or articles that show this?
    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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    modern diesels aren't necessarily cheaper anymore

    what's the application?
    http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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    • #3
      at $1+ gallon more for diesel, I dunno

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cooter View Post
        modern diesels aren't necessarily cheaper anymore

        what's the application?
        I'm an auto lender. Right now corporate is trying to stop me from financing all diesels. I've been a huge proponent for my company setting our underwriting guidelines to finance diesel 3/4 tons+ because their value retention is incredible. Now they want some repair/maintenance data and I'm just running out of available research to cite. They don't seem to understand they reliably last to 300,000 miles.
        "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
        "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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        • #5
          ahh... yeah, they definitely hold their value.

          seems like showing closed auction sales prices and auction prices of various diesel models at different age/mileage vs. similar gas trucks would be an easy argument
          http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cooter View Post
            ahh... yeah, they definitely hold their value.

            seems like showing closed auction sales prices and auction prices of various diesel models at different age/mileage vs. similar gas trucks would be an easy argument
            Yep, already did that and proved that for sure. They want repair/maintenance figures. I can't find any long term comparisons for that.
            "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
            "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
              Yep, already did that and proved that for sure. They want repair/maintenance figures. I can't find any long term comparisons for that.
              Get maintenance schedules and quotes for the required items from the same dealer.

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              • #8
                I know this isn't helping your case any, but I recently watched a program on Kenworth, in their newest truck (granted, it's the Semi world) the engine is supposed to last 1 million miles without an overhaul, with only allowing 10% to not make the million mile mark.

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                • #9
                  $60 oil change every 8-10k plus a fuel filter every now and then. No timing belts or plugs.

                  Gas needs a $30 oil change every 3-5k. Most of the newer ones don't need plugs changed but every 100k.
                  "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
                    $60 oil change every 8-10k plus a fuel filter every now and then. No timing belts or plugs.

                    Gas needs a $30 oil change every 3-5k. Most of the newer ones don't need plugs changed but every 100k.
                    3-5K isn't the case anymore. Several are 7.5K to 10K...but what you've done is skew it to look like the gas is more expensive. This is common for people proving a diesel point.

                    I still think you need to look at published data with regards to maintenence schedules. This can be found in users manuals. Then go to the same dealer and get quotes for all of that maintenence to 300K. You may actually find that a gas is in fact cheaper, or you may prove your point. Either way, have an open mind in your research so your upper management doesn't fire you for favoring a simple opinion.

                    The fact that you've already made up your mind would be worrisome to me if I were reviewing your proposal.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
                      3-5K isn't the case anymore. Several are 7.5K to 10K...but what you've done is skew it to look like the gas is more expensive. This is common for people proving a diesel point.

                      I still think you need to look at published data with regards to maintenence schedules. This can be found in users manuals. Then go to the same dealer and get quotes for all of that maintenence to 300K. You may actually find that a gas is in fact cheaper, or you may prove your point. Either way, have an open mind in your research so your upper management doesn't fire you for favoring a simple opinion.

                      The fact that you've already made up your mind would be worrisome to me if I were reviewing your proposal.
                      I have yet to come across a standard run of the mill vehicle from the big 3 with a 7.5 or 10k service interval. Since we're comparing diesel trucks, you should use the same manufacturers gas vehicles as comparison. Post up the ones you're talking about with those extended service intervals.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post
                        $60 oil change every 8-10k plus a fuel filter every now and then. No timing belts or plugs.

                        Gas needs a $30 oil change every 3-5k. Most of the newer ones don't need plugs changed but every 100k.
                        Don't the newer diesels require a fuel filter more often now?
                        92 LX 5.0

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
                          3-5K isn't the case anymore. Several are 7.5K to 10K...but what you've done is skew it to look like the gas is more expensive. This is common for people proving a diesel point.

                          I still think you need to look at published data with regards to maintenence schedules. This can be found in users manuals. Then go to the same dealer and get quotes for all of that maintenence to 300K. You may actually find that a gas is in fact cheaper, or you may prove your point. Either way, have an open mind in your research so your upper management doesn't fire you for favoring a simple opinion.

                          The fact that you've already made up your mind would be worrisome to me if I were reviewing your proposal.
                          LOL, I'm not going to get fired for my report.
                          "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                          "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                            I have yet to come across a standard run of the mill vehicle from the big 3 with a 7.5 or 10k service interval. Since we're comparing diesel trucks, you should use the same manufacturers gas vehicles as comparison. Post up the ones you're talking about with those extended service intervals.
                            Ford trucks can go up to 10K or 1 year depending on driving habits. Granted several manufacturers are going to the IOLM systems, you will still not generally have the 3-5K intervals. That proog enough for you retard? Read up on it before commenting like an uneducated fool.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 5.0_CJ View Post
                              LOL, I'm not going to get fired for my report.
                              haha yes it was a bit of an exaggeration, but you do want them to trust your work don't you?

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