Gun control laws really work....

[mikec]

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Hopefully you are just trolling and not being a complete moron when trying to think of something to type.

Nope. I don't know WTF goes on in the UK, so I was wondering if the op knew if this happened all the time. Apparently it does.

[Racewerx]

You really think most cops are prepared for hand to hand? Lol no way, granted there are some like the OP that workout, but ive seen a lot that would be screwed if it came down to any physical competition with a criminal.

Most if not all Thugs steal or rob from civilians not police. I dont see your point. It's not uncommon for Bobbies in the UK deal with criminals with nothing more than a night stick. Not saying Police in the UK are better than USA cops just that they deal with crime more toe to toe.

[Racewerx]

It's considerably higher.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tas-study.html

Yeah crime is higher for sure. I am speaking of assault and murder. They don't seem to report as much chicken shit murder as we have in the states.

[CJ]

Yeah crime is higher for sure. I am speaking of assault and murder. They don't seem to report as much chicken shit murder as we have in the states.

That's even worse, violent crimes is considerably higher as a matter of fact.

http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=1323

In or about 2006, there were about 60 million (actually closer to 58M, but we'll use the rounded-up number to be kind to hopolophobes) people in the UK as a whole, including Scotland.

In England and Wales alone — discounting Scotland — there were over 163 thousand knife crimes.

By the end of 2006, there were more than 300 million people in the US as a whole.

In the US as a whole, there were fewer than 400 thousand gun crimes.

In the UK, based on these numbers, there was one knife crime commited for every 374 people (rounded down).

In the US, based on these numbers, there was one gun crime committed for every 750 people — less than half a gun crime per 374 people (about 0.4987 gun crimes per 374 people, actually).

That means that, based on these statistics, you are more than twice as likely to be a victim of knife crime in the UK as you are to be a victim of gun crime in the US.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1eTBV6BfU

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1eTBWzLPU

'We're now on our fourth Home Secretary this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction.'

The figures, compiled by the Tories, are considered the most accurate and up-to-date available.

But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.
New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today

New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today

In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.

There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007.

Experts say there are a number of reasons why violence is soaring in the UK. These include Labour's decision to relax the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock opening, which has led to a rise in the number of serious assaults taking place in the early hours of the morning.

But Police Minister David Hanson said: 'These figures are misleading.
Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour that we would categorise as violent crime.

'Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half a peak in 1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. That is why last year we published 'Saving lives. Reducing harm. Protecting the public. An Action Plan for Tackling Violence 2008-11'.'

The timing of the Europe-wide violence figures is a blow for Mr Johnson, who will today seek to reassert Labour's law and order credentials.

In his first major speech on crime since becoming Home Secretary, Mr Johnson is expected to promise a concerted crack down on antisocial behaviour.

He wants to set up a website to allow the public to see what is taking place in their neighbourhood, such as the number of louts who have been served with Asbos.

Mr Johnson is also known to support early intervention to stop children going off the rails.

[CJ]

I should also mention these statistics are the reason you've seen gun control slow down considerably from the early/mid 90's. The facts are so clear it's mind numbing. Gun control does not work, period.

The reason violent crime is so high in Europe is because people who follow the law (victims) are guaranteed 100% to not have any ability to defend themselves. The consequences are completely laughable.

Ask Mr. Fiux. When we were in London a few months ago he had a police officer pat him down and take his pocket knife. The officer then warned him that it was illegal to defend yourself.

[Nash B.]

Doesn't Canada have pretty relaxed gun laws?

[momo]

Doesn't Canada have pretty relaxed gun laws?

1 gun per gallon of maple syrup. no limit on maple syrup.

[CJ]

Doesn't Canada have pretty relaxed gun laws?

Not really, well.... Canada is a weird place. Some of the highly regulated stuff we have is completely unregulated over there, and some of the most basic items are illegal/highly regulated. It's very odd.

[Nash B.]

Not really, well.... Canada is a weird place. Some of the highly regulated stuff we have is completely unregulated over there, and some of the most basic items are illegal/highly regulated. It's very odd.

Ah, that's what I'd heard, and just assumed that if they could get that stuff easily, they could get the normal stuff even more easily. I mean, common sense, right?

[Racewerx]

The Daily Mail likes sensationalism.

[CJ]

Ah, that's what I'd heard, and just assumed that if they could get that stuff easily, they could get the normal stuff even more easily. I mean, common sense, right?

You take a one day class and get a license for shotguns and rifles. Take another class and get access to pistols and most semi automatic rifles. With a restricted license you can get all of the SBRs and SBSs that you want. Gun shops up there sell G36s directly from HK with a 12 inch barrel (in semi auto format) and IMI tavors over the counter to regular people! The kicker here is that you are limited to 5 round magazines in rifles and 10 rounds magazines in handguns. Also, all guns must be registered with the RCMP.

http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19702&highlight=laws