Talk about "parents" messing with a kid's mind

[SS Junk]

Yes. I've chosen to believe otherwise these days.

Sorry you feel that way. I've been angry at God many times in wondering why he lets suffering go on with kids. I almost lost my oldest son twice in the 11 years he's been on this earth. Once when he was born and then again just a few weeks ago where he became sick with sinusitis which then turned to orbital cellulitis with sepsis complicated by his Type I diabetes, yet he is still alive and well. Doctors told us (just like when he was born) everything but how lucky we were to have caught it on time. That is divine intervention. When things like this happen and I have to ask "why me" I am reminded of the verse from Isaiah 55:8 and I have to then yield and believe God is in control.

Denny, I love you bro, but you're even guilty of this behavior.

Every Christian is. I've never seen a perfect Christian either.

[LS1Goat]

Brent, we're all to blame for our transgressions. Christians just accept the one way to make it right with God.

We ALL fall short of his expectations. Lord knows I need Him more than any of you. LOL!!!

Although I always appreciate a good self-effacing comment, but I'm thinking there are a spate of folks on here who are a lot further down the rung on the spiritual ladder than yourself.

[bcoop]

This. "True" Christians ask for forgiveness and tries to not repeat the sin again and/or really & truly ask for help in overcoming the sin. Asking for forgiveness and then doing the same thing again isn't really repenting...

And therein lies the problem. I guess I've never, in my 30 years, met a "true" Christian. Sure, they may have good intentions. But every one I've met spreads hate, hypocrisy, and sins just as much, if not more than atheists or agnostics. But it's ok, because they can ask forgiveness and pray about it, and all is forgiven. Then they go do the very same shit the next day, and the day after, and so on and so forth. Denny, I love you bro, but you're even guilty of this behavior.

[bcoop]

You ever ask Christ into your life?

Yes. I've chosen to believe otherwise these days.

[GhostTX]

I'll also add, it's hilarious all the "Christians" that are using their belief as their basis to hate homosexuals. Doesn't the Bible preach love and tolerance? Treating others as they want to be treated?

The old adage "hate the sin, not the sinner". One shouldn't accept something you find that goes against your morals and beliefs (whatever they are)

Oh, I see. So Christians get a pass on their sins, because "they are people too.". Yet everyone else is going to hell and being put to death for "being people too.". Makes perfect sense.

No one gets a pass for sins.

As Christians if we fuck up our job is to ask fogiveness and try our best not to fuck up again. With that being said how often do u hear of a homosexual trying his best not to be a homosexual almost never instead our society is now being taught that its ok to suck another dudes dick hell not only that but now it's ok for them to get married and adopt kids and teach them it's cool too

This. "True" Christians ask for forgiveness and tries to not repeat the sin again and/or really & truly ask for help in overcoming the sin. Asking for forgiveness and then doing the same thing again isn't really repenting...

[SS Junk]

I've read the Bible multiple times, on my own. But thanks.....

You ever ask Christ into your life?

[jasonw_2005]

As Christians if we fuck up our job is to ask fogiveness and try our best not to fuck up again. With that being said how often do u hear of a homosexual trying his best not to be a homosexual almost never instead our society is now being taught that its ok to suck another dudes dick hell not only that but now it's ok for them to get married and adopt kids and teach them it's cool too

[bcoop]

Well there's your problem. Instead of depending on people and organizations regarding your belief standards you should delve into the Bible for yourself.

I've read the Bible multiple times, on my own. But thanks.....

[Denny]

Brent, we're all to blame for our transgressions. Christians just accept the one way to make it right with God.

We ALL fall short of his expectations. Lord knows I need Him more than any of you. LOL!!!

[SS Junk]

That's not jumping to a conclusion. That is first hand experience with organized religion.

Well there's your problem. Instead of depending on people and organizations regarding your belief standards you should delve into the Bible for yourself.

[bcoop]

Either you take the Bible and use it IN Context and entirety or not at all. That is the best and only tactic those who choose to disbelieve the Bible have to attempt to argue their side.

That's his whole point. In context, and in it's entirety, it's hypocritical at best.

[bcoop]

Now who's jumping to conclusions? I have never seen it written anywhere that Christians get a free fun pass to do whatever they want. We, as Christians always have to ask for forgiveness daily for the dumb things done. That goes for anyone willing to believe in Christ.

That's not jumping to a conclusion. That is first hand experience with organized religion.

[Treasure Chest]

As someone else on here already said it is a defect.

Tell that to the dwarf chimpanzee, as the entire species is "bisexual." http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

[SS Junk]

Oh, I see. So Christians get a pass on their sins, because "they are people too.". Yet everyone else is going to hell and being put to death for "being people too.". Makes perfect sense.

Now who's jumping to conclusions? I have never seen it written anywhere that Christians get a free fun pass to do whatever they want. We, as Christians always have to ask for forgiveness daily for the dumb things done. That goes for anyone willing to believe in Christ.

[Tx Redneck]

Ohhh, poor Dennis. He can't come up with any good reason to justify his hatred so he has to pull these shenanigans. *pats you on the head* It'll be ok, my feeble minded adversary.

I was talking about all abuse. A vast majority of abuse is performed by heterosexual people. That's the point I was making.

But homosexuality is normal, it's seen throughout nature as a natural occurrence. Why should humans somehow be immune to this natural phenomenon? It's been around since the ancient greeks (as far back as I cared to look) so it's not like it's a new thing. Also, since you say that homosexuals came from abused childhoods most of the time, and it's backed up with plenty of evidence, you should be able to provide the evidence so I can look at it. After all, of all the things I dislike, I dislike being wrong the most.



You should really not look at the bible for any sort of moral compass. Sure there are good pieces of moral advice, but there are countless more acts of immorality advocated within its bindings. Eat shellfish, go to hell. Work on sunday, go to hell. Is your kid being unruly, stone him. Rape victim, death, or marriage to her attacker. The list goes on and on.

The big thing is that many "christians" quote the passage about homosexuality as justification for the denial of rights for homosexual people, then decide to ignore the parts that they don't agree with in that very same book. It's an all or nothing deal.

While he may likely not admit it, I think Denny justifies his dislike of homosexual behavior with the bible, but I could be wrong.

Like bcoop said earlier, you can't discriminate against an entire group of people because of the actions of a few.

Either you take the Bible and use it IN Context and entirety or not at all. That is the best and only tactic those who choose to disbelieve the Bible have to attempt to argue their side.