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  • #16
    Originally posted by Blame Canada View Post
    Well spoken. I agree with you on this 100%
    To add on that a bit more...

    Thieves need to see what happens when they decide to steal from people. They need to know that if the owner of the property wants to kill them for trying to steal, so be it, they need to see that the owner of the property is within their rights.

    If thieves start seeing this they will think twice about taking something that is not theirs.

    If they get a slap on the wrist, what's the big deal? A ticket? They can pay that off from one car they hit.

    Fuck it, cut their hands off.

    I'm not a thief, so I don't have to worry about getting beat to death or shot over something like that.

    edit: If you haven't noticed, thieves piss me off a bit.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by clevelandkid View Post
      Alot of people saying these guys went over the line would also say it would be ok to shoot somebody for breaking in your house.... I fail to see the difference. Where do you draw the line? If they steal your TV, death is ok, but a tool box is only left hook worthy?

      Thieves deserve whatever retribution their victims feel is appropriate in my book. These guys thought the guy deserved to be beat to death, and I'm ok with that. Don't start no shit, won't be no shit.
      inside your house and your truck are completely different. You can see the guy in your truck. If someone is in your house, you cant be sure what they have in their hands. You have family that might be in your house.

      The only fair way to compare this would be if you were inside your truck when someone tried to break in it. When you are in your property...you can easily be killed. If you are next door and someone walks outside of your house with a TV in his hands, there is no justification in beating him to death.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
        inside your house and your truck are completely different. You can see the guy in your truck. If someone is in your house, you cant be sure what they have in their hands. You have family that might be in your house.

        The only fair way to compare this would be if you were inside your truck when someone tried to break in it. When you are in your property...you can easily be killed. If you are next door and someone walks outside of your house with a TV in his hands, there is no justification in beating him to death.
        This is justafication right here to kill someone. DONT FUCK WITH MY TV!!!!!
        I think his point is that the fish got low balled, fucked in the catfish asshole and you paid half price. The worst part was the fish explaining to his fish friends why his asshole smelled like redneck

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        • #19
          Originally posted by 8mpg View Post
          inside your house and your truck are completely different. You can see the guy in your truck. If someone is in your house, you cant be sure what they have in their hands. You have family that might be in your house.

          The only fair way to compare this would be if you were inside your truck when someone tried to break in it. When you are in your property...you can easily be killed. If you are next door and someone walks outside of your house with a TV in his hands, there is no justification in beating him to death.
          5.0svo?

          Edit: To clarify my stance, I personally wouldn't have killed the guy, but I'd have beaten him within an inch of it. I have no sympathy for the now deceased. Sucks for his family though.
          Last edited by racrguy; 12-03-2010, 03:52 PM.

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          • #20
            ok It just says the guy got beaten to death the guy could have been punched one time and he had a heart attack or something would that not be classified as beaten to death.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HarrisonTX View Post
              What are you trying to say?
              Its not worth defending if its "just tools"? Maybe I'm reading it in the wrong voice. Those guys make a living with those tools. Those tools put food on the table.
              Yea, beating the guy to death is a little much, but you could possibly look at it as the thief stealing food from the guys family.
              That still doesn't rationalize it in my eyes. I'm all for eye for an eye but taking someone's life for trying to break into a truck is absurd.

              Originally posted by krazy kris View Post
              ok It just says the guy got beaten to death the guy could have been punched one time and he had a heart attack or something would that not be classified as beaten to death.
              Really?
              An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come.

              -Victor Hugo

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
                every profession has its hazards.

                god bless.
                Amen.
                First hand witness at the failure of public healthcare.

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                • #23
                  They most likely had no intentions of the thief dying, but when your adrenaline is pumping its hard to know when to quit, I dont think they were wrong for what they did unless they approached the guy knowing that they wanted him dead.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Chili View Post
                    I am on board with a beat down, but not beating him to death..
                    This
                    Check your self bro , you're not that cool.

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                    • #25
                      I highly doubt they actually intended to kill the guy, that's just a risk you take as a thief. You steal and you get the shit beat out of you, if you ended up dead so be it. It is just like any other occupation, there are hazards involved and sometimes you avoid them, sometime they beat you to death.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
                        every profession has its hazards.

                        god bless.
                        This.

                        It is well known that the profession of Thief has a high mortality rate in TX.
                        He knew what he was getting into.

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                        • #27
                          So, if they'd only beaten him without the death, with the way the system seems to work in favor of the the thieves, they'd been charged with assault and battery, then sued for emotion distress and any other item a sorry ass lawyer could come up with.

                          For arguments sake, Castle doctrine does extend to your car.

                          Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person
                          is justified in using deadly force against another:
                          (1) if the actor [he] would be justified in using force
                          against the other under Section 9.31; and
                          (2) [if a reasonable person in the actor's situation
                          would not have retreated; and
                          [(3)] when and to the degree the actor [he] reasonably
                          believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
                          (A) to protect the actor [himself] against the
                          other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
                          (B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
                          aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual
                          assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
                          (b) The actor's belief under Subsection (a)(2) that the
                          deadly force was immediately necessary as described by that
                          subdivision is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:
                          (1) knew or had reason to believe that the person
                          against whom the deadly force was used:
                          (A) unlawfully and with force entered, or was
                          attempting to enter unlawfully and with force, the actor's occupied
                          habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment;
                          (B) unlawfully and with force removed, or was
                          attempting to remove unlawfully and with force, the actor from the
                          actor's habitation, vehicle, or place of business or employment; or
                          (C) was committing or attempting to commit an
                          offense described by Subsection (a)(2)(B);
                          (2) did not provoke the person against whom the force
                          was used; and
                          (3) was not otherwise engaged in criminal activity,
                          other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or
                          ordinance regulating traffic at the time the force was used
                          [requirement imposed by Subsection (a)(2) does not apply to an actor
                          who uses force against a person who is at the time of the use of
                          force committing an offense of unlawful entry in the habitation of
                          the actor].
                          (c) A person who has a right to be present at the location
                          where the deadly force is used, who has not provoked the person
                          against whom the deadly force is used, and who is not engaged in
                          criminal activity at the time the deadly force is used is not
                          required to retreat before using deadly force as described by this
                          section.
                          (d) For purposes of Subsection (a)(2), in determining
                          whether an actor described by Subsection (c) reasonably believed
                          that the use of deadly force was necessary, a finder of fact may not
                          consider whether the actor failed to retreat.
                          Question is, what happened before the guy was beaten to death? How big was he? Did he have a knife? Did the others come out to help the first guy?
                          Last edited by GhostTX; 12-03-2010, 04:35 PM.
                          "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                          • #28
                            It sucks that he died, but I have NO sympathy for thieves. He dug his own grave.

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                            • #29
                              Fuck him. Like others have said, it's a hazard of his occupation. Let the thieves union deal with it. Hearing about this might make other thieves say "Hey, maybe we shouldn't be robbing these construction trucks." The dead guy just inadvertently led by example.
                              "Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson

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                              • #30
                                From someone who has had shit stolen....I say fuck him! I doubt they intended for him to die, probably more like just really beat the fuck out of him but 4 on 1 pushed it over that edge. Oh well, they are still heros in my book.

                                Another less thief is always a good thing.
                                70' Chevelle RagTop
                                (Forever Under Construction)



                                "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.”- Thomas A Edison

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