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Good lord, what's with all the crying!?
Did every one forget the dark days of the mid and late 90s when a GT only had 215 HP and people sued ford over Cobras that made less that 300!?
Now people bitch that 600 is too much and hood pins are stupid? Shut the Fuck up!! I'll take this Shelby over any other Cobra or mustang from the bad old days any time and you contrarian dueche bags know you would too.1971 Ford Torino - Time to go bigger and better.
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Originally posted by Dave View PostI'm not hating on the man, just the badge. By Cobra, I mean the SVT team of old. Not rehashed, overpowered, under designed hunks of shit with Shelby's name on it. If I were him i would be ashamed, until I cashed the check.
So whats the difference between this and a GT, besides the powerplant and some snazy badges/wheels/hood pins?
When i bought my last Cobra, it was a far cry from a GT. This looks like an overpowered, gawdy GT. Just sayin."Any dog under 50lbs is a cat and cats are pointless." - Ron Swanson
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Originally posted by Dave View PostUntil it is proven otherwise, I am positive that the motor will out perform the chassis.
Its like auto-crossing a pinto with a 351w.
03 Cobra- 200-ft skidpad, lateral g 0.85 600-ft slalom, mph 64.1
2011 Shelby The car pulled an impressive 1.01 average g on our skidpad and ran the figure-eight course in 24.9 seconds at 0.75 g average
To think that your older cobra with 600 HP was in any way superior (in chassis stock trim) is asinine.
Edit: The 03 they tested was a vert, but I highly doubt that a hard top is worth .15g on the skidpad. Keep in mind, these cars are on STOCK tires. Imagine what would happen if you put a decent set of tires under a Shelby.
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Originally posted by Torinoman View PostGood lord, what's with all the crying!?
Did every one forget the dark days of the mid and late 90s when a GT only had 215 HP and people sued ford over Cobras that made less that 300!?
Now people bitch that 600 is too much and hood pins are stupid? Shut the Fuck up!! I'll take this Shelby over any other Cobra or mustang from the bad old days any time and you contrarian dueche bags know you would too.
Originally posted by jdgregory84 View PostIm trying to remember what was different about the cobra from the gt's. Other than IRS the differences between the gt and shelby and the gt and cobra are the same. Now the new solid axle mustangs outhandle the irs cobras. Your complaints aren't really valid.
Youre right. I read the article on the new GT slalom numbers, paired up against a M3, and I was very surprised. But why stop there on the Shelby? Why not innovate and improve on it? It's twice the price. Where does that change go? The hood pins?
Originally posted by racrguy View PostI don't think the chassis is the issue, but the drivetrain. They undertire the cars to keep from blowing up rear/trans/clutch. Let's break things down into numbers, maybe you can understand those. Both of these tests were done by Motortrend.
03 Cobra- 200-ft skidpad, lateral g 0.85 600-ft slalom, mph 64.1
2011 Shelby The car pulled an impressive 1.01 average g on our skidpad and ran the figure-eight course in 24.9 seconds at 0.75 g average
To think that your older cobra with 600 HP was in any way superior (in chassis stock trim) is asinine.
Edit: The 03 they tested was a vert, but I highly doubt that a hard top is worth .15g on the skidpad. Keep in mind, these cars are on STOCK tires. Imagine what would happen if you put a decent set of tires under a Shelby.
I don't think my Cobra was superior to anything made a day after it came off the line, and it shouldn't be. It was just a better car for the money, which the Shelby isn't.
I honestly can't wait to see the numbers for the 2013, to see if the car can perform with comparable models, like the vette.
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Originally posted by Dave View PostHood pins are stupid. On a $60k car? Fucking stupid. Wah, Wah Wah.
Irs, 6 speed, cable clutch, factory blower, and so forth.
Youre right. I read the article on the new GT slalom numbers, paired up against a M3, and I was very surprised. But why stop there on the Shelby? Why not innovate and improve on it? It's twice the price. Where does that change go? The hood pins?
That first article was interesting. The Cobra out powered the vette by 40hp and 15 ft. lb. but was outperformed on the skidpad. No Surprise.
I don't think my Cobra was superior to anything made a day after it came off the line, and it shouldn't be. It was just a better car for the money, which the Shelby isn't.
I honestly can't wait to see the numbers for the 2013, to see if the car can perform with comparable models, like the vette.
Remember. Back in '03 you could buy a 1 ton truck for as much as a new cobra costs, and the same still holds true. So when you think about it, inflation is a bitch.
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Originally posted by Treadhead View PostThat picture is not a 2013 Model Shelby.
I was in Vegas at the Barrett-Jackson auction, and my wife and I spoke with a Shelby engineer and saw some of their "coming soon" cars. They will make 100 1000rwhp cars in 2012 ("CSXtreme" or some shit) according to the guy we spoke with. He said the test mule actually put out 1086rwhp, but they would tune them to 1000 even. He also said they would run $150k+. Damn.
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Dang...ford going back to the old school c.i on motors...noice!Originally posted by Da PrezFuck dfwstangs!! If Jose ain't running it, I won't even bother going back to it, just my two cents!!Originally posted by VETTKLR
Cliff Notes: I can beat the fuck out of a ZR1
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Originally posted by Vertnut View PostBuzzkiller!:wink1:
I was in Vegas at the Barrett-Jackson auction, and my wife and I spoke with a Shelby engineer and saw some of their "coming soon" cars. They will make 100 1000rwhp cars in 2012 ("CSXtreme" or some shit) according to the guy we spoke with. He said the test mule actually put out 1086rwhp, but they would tune them to 1000 even. He also said they would run $150k+. Damn.
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