Occupy Dallas

[Bassics]

is this crap going to be going on all weekend?

Will I-20 be backed up or will that be pretty clear?

[Denny]

It's so difficult to keep respect for you when you say this kind of stuff. You gonna join your Occupy Dallas brethren?

Fine, don't respect me, but JP Morgan and a group of his thugs came up with this whole Federal Reserve idea in a meeting on a little island off of Georgia in 1910 and it came to pass in 1913. It was started by bankers because they were the ones who would benefit the most from this.

You don't have to respect me, but I'm right.

[CJ]

Fine, don't respect me, but JP Morgan and a group of his thugs came up with this whole Federal Reserve idea in a meeting on a little island off of Georgia in 1910 and it came to pass in 1913. It was started by bankers because they were the ones who would benefit the most from this.

You don't have to respect me, but I'm right.

You're looking at all of this through the foggy feces smeared window of conspiracy. Banks are a necessity for commerce.

[Denny]

You're looking at all of this through the foggy feces smeared window of conspiracy. Banks are a necessity for commerce.

Fuck me...

That doesn't mean shit. These central banks are the ones running the Federal Reserve. They rotate the staff with their own people (through a BS government nomination) and even the head of the Department of Treasury.

Use local fucking banks and credit unions.

Foggy window, my ass.

[CJ]

Fuck me...

That doesn't mean shit. These central banks are the ones running the Federal Reserve. They rotate the staff with their own people (through a BS government nomination) and even the head of the Department of Treasury.

Use local fucking banks and credit unions.

Foggy window, my ass.

Okay, so what you're saying is you want to bring people from outside of the banking industry to run the largest bank in the world? Come on man... Where do you think these people are going to come from? Neighborhood credit unions? Janitors? It's very easy to draw these conspiracy theories.

[talisman]

Dennis, you do sound like a fucking crackpot when you start rambling about this shit. I still like you though.

[Denny]

Okay, so what you're saying is you want to bring people from outside of the banking industry to run the largest bank in the world? Come on man...

Can't be worse than what is already going on. It could help avoid the obvious conflicts of interest. Do you think all these bail-outs had the country's best interest in mind or the banks?

The Federal Reserve is not supposed to be creating our money anyway. Highly illegal, yet accepted.

It is nothing more than a private bank itself. Congress is the only entity Constitutionally allowed to control our money. Now we have this private, unregulated, unmonitored bank handing out more money than this country can honor for at least the next couple of generations and they tell Congress to fuck off when asked where it goes?

Are you really backing this? I know your job relies on people getting loans, but who is really looking through the poo goggles here?

[Denny]

Dennis, you do sound like a fucking crackpot when you start rambling about this shit. I still like you though.

Sad that I'm the only sound of reason when people are blindly backing blatant criminal activity, affecting us all, just because they work for these institutions. Fucking disgusting.

[mstng86]

Can't be worse than what is already going on. It could help avoid the obvious conflicts of interest. Do you think all these bail-outs had the country's best interest in mind or the banks?

The Federal Reserve is not supposed to be creating our money anyway. Highly illegal, yet accepted.

It is nothing more than a private bank itself. Congress is the only entity Constitutionally allowed to control our money. Now we have this private, unregulated, unmonitored bank handing out more money than this country can honor for at least the next couple of generations and they tell Congress to fuck off when asked where it goes?

Are you really backing this? I know your job relies on people getting loans, but who is really looking through the poo goggles here?

Denny, are you really going to bring up the constitution? No one recognizes that piece of toilet paper as a true document this country is bound to operate by.

[Denny]

Denny, are you really going to bring up the constitution? Know one recognizes that piece of toilet paper as a true document this country is bound to operate by.

Fucking shoot me in my fucking head now!

[Mike]

Fucking shoot me in my fucking head now!

I can't shoot a patriot. I'd be more than happy to shoot Mstng86 though.

[mstng86]

Fucking shoot me in my fucking head now!

LOL, it is just an extreme view of what I see happening. None of the asshats in control give two shits about how this country is supposed to be ran from that document. Everyone has their own idea on how it should go, and the person with the most money is the lucky guy that gets to actually be in control.

[CJ]

Can't be worse than what is already going on. It could help avoid the obvious conflicts of interest. Do you think all these bail-outs had the country's best interest in mind or the banks?

The Federal Reserve is not supposed to be creating our money anyway. Highly illegal, yet accepted.

It is nothing more than a private bank itself. Congress is the only entity Constitutionally allowed to control our money. Now we have this private, unregulated, unmonitored bank handing out more money than this country can honor for at least the next couple of generations and they tell Congress to fuck off when asked where it goes?

Are you really backing this? I know your job relies on people getting loans, but who is really looking through the poo goggles here?

I completely understand your point on the constitutionality of a centralized bank, and the fed for that matter. Yes, the constitution does not set forth that idea, and many of our founding fathers (Jefferson for instance) were staunchly against it.

However, even in that light I think brandishing this shiny idea of conspiracy over the centralized bank will very quickly put you in the crackpot category for many people. Just the idea of a bank controlling a currency for it's own profits is in itself absurd. Their own holdings, and value is based on that exact currency. They do not gain anything by manipulating it, because any action they take that lessens the value will hurt themselves. And transversely anything shifty and criminal they conspire to do in raising the value benefits the entire country as a whole.

As for TARP, and government intervention into the economy and private industry I am absolutely opposed. In a capitalist economy the government has ZERO business in private industry, and their intervention only weakens it as a whole. TARP should never have happened, period. We would not be in such bad shape right now if all of those banks and companies would have folded, exactly as they would have in a capitalist economy. George W and Washington sold fear to the people in the form of TARP, that was bullshit.

[talisman]

Sad that I'm the only sound of reason when people are blindly backing blatant criminal activity, affecting us all, just because they work for these institutions. Fucking disgusting.

There's no winning it. Live off the grid as much as you can, but there isn't any turning it around without major legislation that no one will ever have the balls to back. Eventually it will all collapse in on itself, country included. Hopefully it will be after my lifetime. I don't have to worry about legacy.

[Denny]

I completely understand your point on the constitutionality of a centralized bank, and the fed for that matter. Yes, the constitution does not set forth that idea, and many of our founding fathers (Jefferson for instance) were staunchly against it.

However, even in that light I think brandishing this shiny idea of conspiracy over the centralized bank will very quickly put you in the crackpot category for many people. Just the idea of a bank controlling a currency for it's own profits is in itself absurd. Their own holdings, and value is based on that exact currency. They do not gain anything by manipulating it, because any action they take that lessens the value will hurt themselves. And transversely anything shifty and criminal they conspire to do in raising the value benefits the entire country as a whole.

As for TARP, and government intervention into the economy and private industry I am absolutely opposed. In a capitalist economy the government has ZERO business in private industry, and their intervention only weakens it as a whole. TARP should never have happened, period. We would not be in such bad shape right now if all of those banks and companies would have folded, exactly as they would have in a capitalist economy. George W and Washington sold fear to the people in the form of TARP, that was bullshit.

They don't gain anything by it?!?! Do you know JP Morgan holds more in derivatives than the total GDP of the world? Can't play with leveraging without this funny money set-up we have today.