Mustangs and Muscle cars

[71chevellejohn]

She wont stick around here for two years.

She will if you stalk her into loving you.

[Mike]

She will if you stalk her into loving you.

I only have time for you, John.

[talisman]

I stand corrected. My assumptions are wrong. But that begs the question. If the cars of today weight 1k+ more than the cars of yesteryear, why are they so much slower? I mean, I always hear about people touting big block this, and wedge that, yet when I hear about a stock one running in the mid/high 14's, I'm like wtfux!?

Most big block restorations from that era will net you a cool 230 or so horsepower. It's usually older guys that don't know anything about cars other than what they were told about the power ratings when the cars were new and they were kids that talk about how "fast" they were. Also, "fast" is relative. 14s used to be "fast."

[Momentomoir]

That's probably the best reason in the world to restore a six-banger coupe. As long as it isn't an investment and you intend to keep and enjoy it, it's a winning game plan. It sure doesn't hurt that it's a family heirloom. They don't all have to be collectors items and race cars.



Brake work, hon. brake

Its all that was left.... His parents house burnt down killing their 4 dogs and causing my father-in-law to have a heart attack due to too much smoke intake. We have people that knew my father-in-law trying to help restore it. There was one other mustang they had, my father-in-law was working on so he could maybe race it one day and thats what his wishes were that one however will take alot longer to restore:

Didn't even catch that. Guess this isn't a forum to loose focus on, Grammar Nazi here and there lol.

[71chevellejohn]

I stand corrected. My assumptions are wrong. But that begs the question. If the cars of today weight 1k+ more than the cars of yesteryear, why are they so much slower? I mean, I always hear about people touting big block this, and wedge that, yet when I hear about a stock one running in the mid/high 14's, I'm like wtfux!?

More efficient engines/transmissions. Better Power management. Better weight transfer through suspensions.

Also some of the HP/Torque numbers from the old days were exaggerated(in both ways).

[BLAKE]

I was thinking more of the "muscle car" you outlined. Those things, to the best of my imagination are big, slow, and cantankerous. I fully well admit, I haven't been in one, but just look at it, there's no way you can get that much metal in an object and keep it "light" by street car standards.

Yeah, most muscle cars were over 3000lbs. Generally less than a modern pony car, but larger overall dimensions. The bigger issue is the handling with 60's suspension tech and a heavy-ass big block in it, so there's a little more holding it back than a lighter Mustang.

[Big A]

Quote me two years from now and let me know where you're at. Maybe your name will be spelled correctly by then. And not that it has anything to do with anything, but you've got a serious case of the stoner eyes in that video, btw.

My desire to restore the '68 Firebird has nothing to do with value. I'll likely have a helluva lot more into it than it's worth, but I still want to do it, and it won't get sold for a loooong time.

[Momentomoir]

She won't stick around here for two years.

Thats what you think. We'll see 2 years from now k? I was warned about some of yall. Not the Grammar/Spelling Nazi level, but they did tell me how yall treat newbs and the demand of boobies in threads

She will if you stalk her into loving you.

...yeah not a reason to stick around....

[talisman]

My desire to restore the '68 Firebird has nothing to do with value. I'll likely have a helluva lot more into it than it's worth, but I still want to do it, and it won't get sold for a loooong time.

That's fine. I'm really just stating the obvious. Out of 100 full blown restore or replace every single piece of an old beat to hell car that started off being worth about $1500, 99 of them end up being sold at a serious loss and not even close to being finished. I've watched this game for a long time. Anyone that doesn't believe me can go get on ebay for a few hours, and look at these $1500 cars that "have over 10k invested!, Lots of spare parts!, Just needs _______!, Ran when parked!" located somewhere in the description. It's comical. Now if the car has been in the family, it does have a slightly better chance...

[Mike]

Thats what you think. We'll see 2 years from now k? I was warned about some of yall. Not the Grammar/Spelling Nazi level, but they did tell me how yall treat newbs and the demand of boobies in threads


...yeah not a reason to stick around....

Please don't ever give in and show your boobs.

Good luck with restoring the car.

[Momentomoir]

Please don't ever give in and show your boobs.

Ya I wouldn't, you guys can all attempt to get boobies in real life. Getting pictures of boobies online is for little boys. I'm sure maybe some of you can probably get boobies in real life.
I hope we can restore it to its former condition. Just seeing the look of on my mother-in-laws face when she saw the car driving was good enough drive to finish it.

[Big A]

That's fine. I'm really just stating the obvious. Out of 100 full blown restore or replace every single piece of an old beat to hell car that started off being worth about $1500, 99 of them end up being sold at a serious loss and not even close to being finished. I've watched this game for a long time. Anyone that doesn't believe me can go get on ebay for a few hours, and look at these $1500 cars that "have over 10k invested!, Lots of spare parts!, Just needs _______!, Ran when parked!" located somewhere in the description. It's comical. Now if the car has been in the family, it does have a slightly better chance...

That's it, the family aspect makes me willing to spend a bit more than it's worth. My grandad bought it new, and to have the car restored would be awesome.

I don't intend to make money, but I also don't intend to sell it. Gotta pry it from my dad's hands first.

[Momentomoir]

That's it, the family aspect makes me willing to spend a bit more than it's worth. My grandad bought it new, and to have the car restored would be awesome.

I don't intend to make money, but I also don't intend to sell it. Gotta pry it from my dad's hands first.

That's why we're restoring the '68. Family value on a car in my eyes is worth the price. Especially if that's all you really have of them left.

[Big A]

That's why we're restoring the '68. Family value on a car in my eyes is worth the price. Especially if that's all you really have of them left.

As long as you don't put a 6 cylinder back in it, go for it.

[Momentomoir]

As long as you don't put a 6 cylinder back in it, go for it.

Well we planned on keeping the same motor that's in it. The other one has a 302 in it