So, where does all that "revenue" go??

[SS Junk]

What strength of sunblock do you have to use when under fluorescent lights?

[bcoop]

Do you really think I've been waiting for 20 years thinking "geez, if we had one more law that would really open the doors for me to screw with people, I'd be in heaven!"???????

You don't represent all police officers. Just like how you say one bad apple, doesn't represent the rest.

This one more thing will not be the thing that breaks the dam and causes the flood.

So we should all just give up one more civil liberty, one more freedom. Because just one more is ok. Where does it stop?

[03trubluGT]

Denny - nobody is saying the police are writing and passing these new laws. Yes, it's the politicians, with one of the higher ups in the PD giving opinions and direction. But, the police do enforce the laws. And if you think police aren't chomping at the bits to have more of these trivial bullshit laws to give them PC to stop more vehicles, you're insane.

Like the traffic code isn't already jam packed with reasons?

Do you really think I've been waiting for 20 years thinking "geez, if we had one more law that would really open the doors for me to screw with people, I'd be in heaven!"???????

If I want to make an investigative stop, there are more than enough reasons. This one more thing will not be the thing that breaks the dam and causes the flood.

[03trubluGT]

haha pd is a bunch of crooks! rob the taxpayer then rob them again on the streets. one thing i have learned is if you drive a pos car they dont even look your way.

You are so ignorant it's not even funny.

[bcoop]

Denny - nobody is saying the police are writing and passing these new laws. Yes, it's the politicians, with one of the higher ups in the PD giving opinions and direction. But, the police do enforce the laws. And if you think police aren't chomping at the bits to have more of these trivial bullshit laws to give them PC to stop more vehicles, you're insane.

[bubbaearl]

so just how much should cruzin stop six at night out gunned and out numbered pay ???

[Captain Crawfish]

haha pd is a bunch of crooks! rob the taxpayer then rob them again on the streets. one thing i have learned is if you drive a pos car they dont even look your way.

[Roscoe]

<-- wished he got a retirement...

[03trubluGT]

Most of that ice cream stayed on the plate. That was a lot of swirl!!!

How many vacations has the OP been on this year?

I've been on one vacation this year.

And how many days will he get paid out when he retires? The outlandish retirement and benefit packages are one of the things that have fucked governments and government entities.

And to add to this, I would not say that my retirement is "outlandish". I've earned every benefit I have, and as a matter of fact, you need decent benefit to attract qualified applicants.

Do you really want a PD to get minimum pay and no benefits so that they supplement their income by stealing or taking bribes?

Let's really talk about "outlandish retirement". How about working for 4 years in office and getting 100% retirement for the rest of your life, plus a guard detail? How about taking 5 vacations per year, all on the taxpayer's dime? When I went to the Outer Banks, I paid for my own travel, I sure as hell didn't fly my family on Air Force 1.


The thing that angers me is how the city leaders see the PD as a cash cow. When a marked unit goes in for an oil change, in stead of charging the cost of the change, they charge the PD $75. The excess goes into the General Fund which is a fund that they spend however they want to.

The PD also pays the Boys and Girls Clubs over $100k/year. The "logic" is that if we give those unfortunate kids something to do, they won't be out stealing and dealing dope. When I was a kid, we didn't do bad stuff because our parents would whip our ass.

I like how this has gone from a general discussion to a microscope up my ass.

[Denny]

Well, I can tell you Southlake didnt get their shiney new FLIR units mounted on their brand new magnums and chargers by wishing for them...

Equipment purchased to make "revenue generation" more efficient?

[32vfromhell]

Well, I can tell you Southlake didnt get their shiney new FLIR units mounted on their brand new magnums and chargers by wishing for them...

[Denny]

I owe you a beer Denny.

I'm within reach for a while.

[Unicorn Jeff]

I owe you a beer Denny.

[Denny]

Actually, revenue generation through "law enforcement" is a fucking joke these days. It does NOT go into the pockets of the LEOs (whoever thinks that is just flat-out retarded). It is nothing but the mismanagement of these municipalities. These cities get into some financial problems, spending MORE than both the revenue they generate through these taxes, services, fines AND even what is lent to them through these municipal bonds.

So what is their answer?

Well, if they raise taxes too much, they get voted out. If they spend less, then they can't justify spending as much or more the next year and they can't keep up with "deals" they made to the vendors of that city- which equals business going elsewhere. They can't overly impose fines on violations of the laws and city ordinances (moreso than they are already doing on a ridiculous level).

So they come to an agreement to nickel and dime some more taxation and throw up a few more red light cameras and assign a couple more officers to traffic duty. Then they start new fees associated with emergency services like alarm fees, false alarm fines and being charged for the FD or EMS to show whether they are needed or not. (basically, more taxes)

There are a couple of problems we see now. One- when more revenue comes in, they don't use it to pay down anything, rather use it to justify MORE spending to try to build infrastructure and attract more local business. Two- with all these home owners defaulting on their mortgages, the city is now losing the property tax, the water/sewage/trash collection fees, etc. Banks are either holding out on the process to foreclose so they can mask their losses or just not being able to sell the houses that they do foreclose on. This will cause a dramatic dip on the taxation portion.

Remember the increased spending when they did start generating more revenue? Well, that deficit is now even worse! Guess what happens then? Fewer investors (muni bonds). Now where do they turn to for more revenue generation (besides waiting for their next stimulus handout)? That's right... back to law enforcement.

Stop mother fucking the police, y'all. You guys are barking up the wrong tree. You need to motherfuck these councilmen and city managers. Trust me, the cops aren't the ones driving this, let alone even wanting to do it.

[Ruffdaddy]

How many vacations has the OP been on this year?

And how many days will he get paid out when he retires? The outlandish retirement and benefit packages are one of the things that have fucked governments and government entities.