Pledge of allegance

[dangerous_sep]

Forgive my ignorance here. But what exactly do JW believe or try to get u to believe I've never had one approach me or knock on my door.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/201008/article_01.htm

[Avery'sDad]

/\/\hmm.

So I confroneted the grandma and she said that she asked her one day what the significance of the flag was and she.good her that some people.pledge to it but she doesn't. And that she understands and has stated to.Avery that she is just the grandma and is not here to influence her but just to take care of her. That is the parents job. I know she is lying because a 5 year old would not be that adamant against the pledge. My ex showed me how they are although she can be vindictive I think she is right on this one. I just can't seem to separate myself from this situation.

[helosailor]

For people that are so religious, I would think lying would really rub them the wrong way. You're absolutely right, at 5, there's no way she could make that decision and be so adamant about it with a lot of coaching.

[564826]

Just stand your ground and tell them how you feel, don't be embarrassed or feel ashamed, be forth right about how you feel and if at that point you can't get through to them then take it to the next step.

[10sec302]

keep her out of their reach as much as possible. Even if it does mean you have to pay $250-300 a month for daycare. They will brainwash, that is a damn guarantee.

I worked with a Jehovah witness once. He really wasn't a bad guy and pretty much kept his religious beliefs on the downlow unless he wanted to make a joke about it or explain how they dealt with dating women. The religious side never came up.

I used to laugh my ass off when he called himself a jaydub.

Please tell me where you can get daycare for $250-$300 a month. Most of them these days want $120 or more per week.

[Avery'sDad]

An after school program cost that much.

[Avery'sDad]

Update. Man this is going to be a hard thing to do. I might need to put her into the after the bell program. I was thinking that since she was in school and they only spent about 2 hours a day with her and that she would be around normal kids that it wouldn't be much of a deal. Today I find out that they signed her up for an art class for wednesdays from like 4 to 5. This same "art class" is being held by the same person who put on a talent show she was in. Turns out this person is a witness and the show was more like talentless/sermon. I'm sure as hell that the only kids in this "art class" are witnesses. This just adds more ammunition. I'm gonna feel like the biggest piece of crap in the world if and when I tell them that I don't think they need to take care of her after school, but I don't know if my influence can overcome or even offset the kind of teaching they will do to my child.

[Leah]

Please tell me where you can get daycare for $250-$300 a month. Most of them these days want $120 or more per week.

The afterschool program at my daughter's school is $165/month. That gives homework help, snack, playtime from 3-6pm Mon-Fri.

[Leah]

Update. Man this is going to be a hard thing to do. I might need to put her into the after the bell program. I was thinking that since she was in school and they only spent about 2 hours a day with her and that she would be around normal kids that it wouldn't be much of a deal. Today I find out that they signed her up for an art class for wednesdays from like 4 to 5. This same "art class" is being held by the same person who put on a talent show she was in. Turns out this person is a witness and the show was more like talentless/sermon. I'm sure as hell that the only kids in this "art class" are witnesses. This just adds more ammunition. I'm gonna feel like the biggest piece of crap in the world if and when I tell them that I don't think they need to take care of her after school, but I don't know if my influence can overcome or even offset the kind of teaching they will do to my child.

Keep waiting and things are only going to get worse. Pull the plug NOW.

[Avery'sDad]

How do you know? Have you taught kids that went thruogh this? It will be just me and her if I make that decision. Plus why can't I get over the feeling that I am stabbing them in the back after all they did for me. When I make this decision then I have only the ex on my side who seems to be even worse than what they are. I'm alone on this one. I'll be having a child asking me why I don't like grandma no more.

[A+]

damn, for a while i was wishing i had family that could watch my kids for a while, now im glad i dont. Good luck with that, man. Personally, i would tell the grandparents to keep the dumb shit to themselves and put the kid somewhere else. youll feel bad for a while but youll get over it and so will they......

[mikec]

How do you know? Have you taught kids that went thruogh this? It will be just me and her if I make that decision. Plus why can't I get over the feeling that I am stabbing them in the back after all they did for me. When I make this decision then I have only the ex on my side who seems to be even worse than what they are. I'm alone on this one. I'll be having a child asking me why I don't like grandma no more.

Man up and do it. Or leave her there and bitch about it some more.

Two choices, one child. Now sack up!

[Zfan]

This. If she doesn't back off, I'd do as Leah suggested and get after school care.

X2

[mstng86]

Are the grandparents going to raise your kid after they die? NO, you are, it is your responsibility and they won't be here much longer anyways.

Nut up and put this away.