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  • #31
    Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
    When anything is reported to the police, there is very little, if any discretion. Especially with a school administrator pushing the issue.
    Yeah, but is a kid being a kid illegal?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
      You didn't blur out the address. Just FYI.
      HAHA dammit I caught the phone number. LOL
      Whos your Daddy?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by racrguy View Post
        Yeah, but is a kid being a kid illegal?
        No, but when criminal conduct is reported, the officer has no descretionary abilities. Their job is to report it or face dereliction of duty allegations.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
          No, but when criminal conduct is reported, the officer has no descretionary abilities. Their job is to report it or face dereliction of duty allegations.
          Ok, then why are 5 year olds getting tickets? If what they are doing isn't illegal/criminal, there's nothing to report. Win for the kid/parents on not having to deal with BS tickets, win for the cop on not having to write BS tickets, and win for the school, as maybe they'll learn how to deal with kids instead of throwing up their hands and giving up.

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          • #35
            Where is a 5 year old getting cited? The age for criminal culpability is 10 years of age.

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            • #36
              this is ridiculous.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
                Where is a 5 year old getting cited? The age for criminal culpability is 10 years of age.
                I read it wrong, I'm sorry. Regardless, giving a 10 year old a ticket for being a kid? Seriously? Common sense has gone straight out the fucking window. I could understand it, and agree with writing a ticket to a kid that was destroying property, but getting into a fist fight? The kid was in FOURTH grade. I've got a niece who's 10 and she doesn't understand what I'm saying half the time, let alone the thought processes that go along with it.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                  I read it wrong, I'm sorry. Regardless, giving a 10 year old a ticket for being a kid? Seriously? Common sense has gone straight out the fucking window.
                  Then tell the schools to quit calling the police.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
                    I read it wrong, I'm sorry. Regardless, giving a 10 year old a ticket for being a kid? Seriously? Common sense has gone straight out the fucking window.
                    No No it says a five year old got a ticket in there. Not sure who the hell isssued that little Jewel but yeah uh 10 is the magic number in Texas.
                    Whos your Daddy?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
                      Then tell the schools to quit calling the police.
                      I added a bit. But they need to get it from both ends. The cops telling the schools, and parents, to quit wasting their time with bullshit like that, and the parents raising holy hell for it.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by kingjason View Post
                        No No it says a five year old got a ticket in there. Not sure who the hell isssued that little Jewel but yeah uh 10 is the magic number in Texas.
                        aah. I just glanced over it.

                        “It really defied common sense,” said Deborah Fowler, the report’s lead author, who found tickets issued to students as young as 5.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by joes01bullitt View Post
                          its called the pussyfication of america......
                          I agree, but I think it is more accurate to call it the Criminalization of America.

                          We are taking small every day incidents that are easily solved and handing it over to the police and courts to deal with. We are truly living in the days of a Police state.

                          Soon it won't matter if you have a felony conviction on your background check, because just about everyone else will have one too. I predict that it is going to get to the point where everyone says, "Fuck It" because they are screwed no matter what they do.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by stevo View Post
                            Hearing that crap makes me think of this:
                            People don't have those reactions anymore. No matter what a kid does you try to beat your kid in public you will get both mortified/horrified/smug/dirty looks from those in the immediate area.
                            When my oldest was 7 we were in line at a Cosco. I had repeatedly told him to take his Hotwheels car off the roller track at the cashier and he never flinched. I smacked him in the behind loudly, grabbed his arm and escorted him closer to our shopping cart while he cried and played for sympathy. With the looks I got it was as if I kicked his head in and left him for dead.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Sgt Beavis View Post
                              I agree, but I think it is more accurate to call it the Criminalization of America.

                              We are taking small every day incidents that are easily solved and handing it over to the police and courts to deal with. We are truly living in the days of a Police state.

                              Soon it won't matter if you have a felony conviction on your background check, because just about everyone else will have one too. I predict that it is going to get to the point where everyone says, "Fuck It" because they are screwed no matter what they do.

                              This isn't limited to just schools either. Some of the shit on the books these days defies any type of logic. We certainly need a huge purging of laws in this country.

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                              • #45
                                You know, every school should have parent sign a note of release for:
                                PC §9.62. EDUCATOR--STUDENT. The use of force, but not deadly
                                force, against a person is justified:
                                (1) if the actor is entrusted with the care, supervision, or administration
                                of the person for a special purpose; and
                                (2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the
                                force is necessary to further the special purpose or to maintain discipline
                                in a group.
                                "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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