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Originally posted by The King View PostSans laws, regulations, etc. these new "nations" would degenerate into anarchy and implode in short order, human nature being what it is.Originally posted by racrguyWhat's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?Originally posted by racrguyVoting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostIt just says it is a libertarian exercise, not total anarchy. If he wants anarchy he can save a lot of money by just going to Somalia.
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Originally posted by The King View PostSans laws, regulations, etc. these new "nations" would degenerate into anarchy and implode in short order, human nature being what it is.
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Originally posted by UserX View PostIt depends on who you allow on the "island"... with no laws, you can pick and choose based on race, salary, cup size, criminal background, credit rating, hell anything you want.
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I don't see total anarchy happening as fast as other countries wanting to overtake it for a strategic position, thus causing the United States to act first.
How far off the coast would they have to go before there are no land laws? What maritime laws? Would Interpol now be a governing body over these new Utopias?
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Originally posted by The King View PostWho decides the initial criteria for inclusion....a Dear Leader maybe? To maintain the exclusivity of the new "nation", regulations would have to be enacted and enforced by the "citizens", however regulations are one of the things the initiative is supposedly against.
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Originally posted by talisman View PostPretty interesting in concept, wonder if will ever actually get built.
Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine.
Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch--free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be "a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons."
"There are quite a lot of people who think it's not possible," Thiel said at a Seasteading Institute Conference in 2009, according to Details. (His first donation was in 2008, for $500,000.) "That's a good thing. We don't need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don't think it's possible they won't take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it's too late."
The Seasteading Institute's Patri Friedman says the group plans to launch an office park off the San Francisco coast next year, with the first full-time settlements following seven years later.
Thiel made news earlier this year for putting a portion of his $1.5 billion fortune into an initiative to encourage entrepreneurs to skip college.
Another Silicon Valley titan, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, announced in June that he would be funding the "Clock of the Long Now." The clock is designed to keep ticking for 10,000 years, and will be built in a mountain in west Texas."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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sounds awesome... unless you've spent any length of time on an offshore platform before! LOL
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