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  • has mankind lost its originality?

    I was discussing this with someone else recently, it seems new ideas and creativity has greatly declined, it seems like every movie plot is the rehash of an old one or a sequel/prequel, styling is retro, most new songs are the same beat and most books just the same plot with new words.

    Has man's creativity ran out, with not many new ideas?

    Stevo
    Originally posted by SSMAN
    ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

  • #2
    Creative and stupid walk the same line sometimes.

    The richest man in Babylon

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    • #3
      Tits or GTFO!!













      I sometimes wonder the same thing, but as far as creativity in technology goes, I think corporations and the government keep alot of it hidden from us. And what we deem as stupid or making no sense is in a way creativity.

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      • #4
        The quick answer is No, of course not.

        The reason you're asking is because you are only looking at mass media, which is formulaic by design. There is not a lot of reward for the risk of seeking out new talent and new paradigms. People are sheeple and want to be fed the same grain over and over. For example, 92.5 KZPS.

        But there's really no shame in revisiting the good trends. We've been force fed electronic music for 35 years now. Somehow a shitty garage band sounds refreshing and fun, doesn't it?
        When the government pays, the government controls.

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        • #5
          I think we should keep looking to the past for new ideas..and to improve upon those ideas. Technology continues to make leaps n bounds. Maybe there's not much left to be creative about? I'm being very creative just surviving this economy....does that count?

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          • #6
            I don't know. I'ma google this question and I'll get back to you with whatever answer others have come up with previously.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
              The quick answer is No, of course not.

              The reason you're asking is because you are only looking at mass media, which is formulaic by design. There is not a lot of reward for the risk of seeking out new talent and new paradigms. People are sheeple and want to be fed the same grain over and over. For example, 92.5 KZPS.

              But there's really no shame in revisiting the good trends. We've been force fed electronic music for 35 years now.
              Haha, at the risk of being ironic, that's pretty much what I was going to say. Your problem is looking at those areas as the only outlet for creativity. They're all in it to make money, and the same old money-making plot or beat with their twist will make money.

              You want creativity and new ideas? Look at today's technology.
              Originally posted by Broncojohnny
              HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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              • #8
                I agree with the technology point of view, but remember most of that is created with complex computers and simulation and built of the ideas of previous people. Not many completely new ideas from a single person. It seems there have been few "breakthroughs" lately, just news twists on old technology

                I think I am describing a lack in creativity when it comes to ideas that are subjective. If we have ideas that take ques from retro trends that were great, it is still just a new twist on someone else's idea, and still not original.

                Stevo
                Originally posted by SSMAN
                ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                • #9
                  “We are nothing but echoes. We have no thoughts of our own, no opinions of our own, we are but a compost heap made up of the decayed heredities, moral and physical.” (Mark Twain)

                  "It has all been done before; there is nothing new under the sun." (Ecclesiasties 1:9)

                  Not a new or original topic

                  Innovation andchange occurs explosively or over a long period of time - it's not a sustained speed process that is easily measured and accounted for.

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                  • #10
                    I think you just aren't exposed to the correct stuff. Nearly every idea is based on improving something else...what exactly is new to you then? Even technology wise...

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                    • #11
                      And computers doing complex simulation has nothing to do with creativity. It actually does the opposite. It takes the non creative portion out of design. Computers can only repeat what has already been done or what it learned from the programmers. you still need a human for new designs.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View Post
                        And computers doing complex simulation has nothing to do with creativity. It actually does the opposite. It takes the non creative portion out of design. Computers can only repeat what has already been done or what it learned from the programmers. you still need a human for new designs.
                        You obviously haven't heard about a little thing called, Skynet.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
                          You obviously haven't heard about a little thing called, Skynet.
                          Get out of my head, I was about to post that.

                          Stevo
                          Originally posted by SSMAN
                          ...Welcome to the land of "Fuck it". No body cares, and if they do, no body cares.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stevo View Post
                            I agree with the technology point of view, but remember most of that is created with complex computers and simulation and built of the ideas of previous people. Not many completely new ideas from a single person. It seems there have been few "breakthroughs" lately, just news twists on old technology

                            Stevo
                            Computers don't give people ideas. They help people implement them.
                            Originally posted by mstng86 View Post
                            You obviously haven't heard about a little thing called, Skynet.
                            But some creative, original guy or group of guys (maybe a woman or two) had to first enable it and then teach it how to think creatively and originally.
                            Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                            HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by That_Is_My_El_Camino View Post
                              But some creative, original guy or group of guys (maybe a woman or two) had to first enable it and then teach it how to think creatively and originally.
                              He blew himself up trying to get that arm.

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