How would you handle this

[papapepper]

Live stock and wild animals are being left outside all over this tragic world!

No kidding.

[mstng86]

Live stock and wild animals are being left outside all over this tragic world!

yea, but the majority of them don't play fetch.

[BlackGT]

I read every post....

I have to agree with the ones that said it's the Mom's fault!
You warned/asked her to bring the dog inside.
She knew that you asked Peyton to give the dog water, but SHE didn't follow-up to make sure it was being done.

You weren't there to supervise so it's not your fault. You did what you could from afar, why is it now your responsibility to clean up HER mess?

SHE needs to dig the grave, SHE needs to be scolded, and SHE needs to apologize to the family for letting it happen!

[Nash B.]

I disagree. Were all dogs brought inside in 1920? No.

This is a serious issue, but remember, it's a dog, they are outside animals.

I agree, but it depends on the breed. I bring mine in because they're not suited for this heat, but they don't like to come in when it's cold.

[talisman]

Live stock and wild animals are being left outside all over this tragic world!

...With water available...

[SEB]

SEB, how much responsibility do you take in this matter, percentage-wise?

Equal amount as his mother! I knew Jasper should have been brought inside yesterday with the temp hitting 110, Hell I knocked off work at 10 am cause it was already to hot. Thats why I called & had Buttkiss brought in & then called Mandy to tell her to have Peyton bring Jasper in.

I should have called back to make sure it was done is why I take Responsibility for Jaspers death.

[Sean88gt]

yea, but the majority of them don't play fetch.

Neither did my dog. He just ate and shit a lot.

[papapepper]

Section 42.09 of the Texas Penal Code prohibits the intentional cruel treatment of animals. Under current Texas Law, cruel treatment of animals is forbidden. The following actions define cruel punishment:

1. Torturing an animal
2. Failing to provide food, care or shelter
3. Abandoning an animal (*see note below)
4. Transporting or confining an animal in a cruel manner
5. Killing, seriously injuring or poisoning an animal
6. Causing an animal to fight with another (see info on recently passed Texas Legislature HB 916 here).
7. Using a live animal as a lure in a dog race
8. Tripping a horse
9. Injuring an animal belonging to another person
10. Seriously overworking an animal.


Sounds like someone broke the law. This is a little more serious then my former pot smoking too.


Lol at tripping a horse.... wtf?

[Sean88gt]

...With water available...

Not the little african children!

[SEB]

I was responsible for shooting plenty of wild game way before age 11 :P and by that age I had seen some of my dogs come and go. It's hard but I wasn't ever scarred for life because of it and it taught me lessons in life.


FWIW, I work my dogs in this heat..... 110+ temps. What kind of dog was this? I'll work my dogs with kevlar on them if needed even. None of them have ever passed out from the heat or just killed over. You just have to provide them with a steady source for water.

This is a little dog & has always been a outside dog & he stays outside 24/7 unless its Freezing cold.

He is a Boston Mixed with something. He was a stray & was given to Peyton

[forbes]

you don't have to scold him to get your point across. lay out the facts to him in a manner he can understand. no need to say you did this and yada yada...
tell him there was a reason you asked him to water the dog and this is why. then explain to him he didn't have a problem playing x box all day in the a/c, while the dog was out there dying. that he should feel some burden of responsibility etc etc.

[0 GT 2]

After thinking about it a bit what's done is done and as crappy as it is any animosity towards the child or the situation would only be negative.

I agree with pappapepper, help him bury the dog and talk to him about life and responsibility. I think a 'matter of fact' type conversation would work a lot better than a scolding since you already set him in time out and he has had time to think about this on his own.

[Nash B.]

Section 42.09 of the Texas Penal Code prohibits the intentional cruel treatment of animals. Under current Texas Law, cruel treatment of animals is forbidden. The following actions define cruel punishment:

1. Torturing an animal
2. Failing to provide food, care or shelter
3. Abandoning an animal (*see note below)
4. Transporting or confining an animal in a cruel manner
5. Killing, seriously injuring or poisoning an animal
6. Causing an animal to fight with another (see info on recently passed Texas Legislature HB 916 here).
7. Using a live animal as a lure in a dog race
8. Tripping a horse
9. Injuring an animal belonging to another person
10. Seriously overworking an animal.

Sounds like someone broke the law. This is a little more serious then my former pot smoking too.

Except it wasn't intentional...

[Randy]

And on a personal note, this thread really fuckin' sickens me and pisses me off.

^^^^ This X2

[papapepper]

Except it wasn't intentional...

True. Could someone ever prove something like that was intentional?


Either way I'm sad about the dog.


"Two types of laws protect animals from cruelty: Criminal laws and civil laws. The laws are similar but differ in the penalties they impose. If prosecuted in a criminal case, a person may face penalties including fines, jail or both. Those under the age of 18 are also required to undergo counseling if convicted of animal cruelty"