Jumping Jehoshaphat! Wut in tarnation is this world coming to? (Nice Title Edit Mods)

[jnobles06]

they both should get charged

it would have taken longer to walk to the crosswalk, and thus allowing the drunk driver to pass.

if she would have gone to the crosswalk and hit the button and waited for the oncoming traffic light to change to red the drunk would have A) been already passed them B) stopped at the light or C) hit the child anyways on accident (this would have been solely the drivers fault).

i'm not saying that the kid would have been 100% safe but the chances or death or injury would have been greatly reduced. it the moms responsibility to protect the child and her jaywalking is what killed the kid. sober drivers can just as easily kill jaywalkers as drunk drivers. especially at night when the jaywalkers are african american.

i say harshly punish them both for the death.

[idrivea4banger]

i can't find a problem here with the mothers sentencing, other than she should have gotten the full extent of punishment for her crime. She killed her son, not the driver.

the driver should get whatever the proper punishment for 3rd dwi, and hit/run charge would be. He's not responsible for the manslaughter, which is worse than a 3rd dwi+hit/run combination imo.

Sure, he MIGHT have done worse without the sudden wake-up call, but that's not how the cards fell on this one.

Mom jaywalked. Mom killed child. mom gets manslaughter charge as deserved.

3rd dwi/hit an run.


They should both get the full extent of those charges, but its not the drunks fault the mom killed her son.

Are you fucking serious???

[Forever_frost]

Oh. Silly me. Here I thought the drunk driver behind the wheel of the car that actually ran over the child, is the one that killed the kid.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be nailed for doing it, but she is just as guilty.

[racrguy]

Not true at all unless you want to make the case that a crosswalk magically stops drivers, drunk or not.
Did she contribute? Sure
Irresponsible? Sure
Should be sentenced to community service and probation? Sure
Killed the kid? Well, that's just fucking stupid

This.

But a year of probation? Give me a fucking break IMO. 80 hrs community service. It's jaywalking for chrissakes. If everyone was given 1 year of probation and 40 hours of community service, I, along with millions of other people wouldn't ever get out of the system. There aren't crosswalks or pedestrian lights at every stoplight/intersection (that I've noticed.)

[89stangGT]

Exactly.

Not crossing at the crosswalk killed the child. The dude was fucking drunk, and ran. If she had crossed at the crosswalk, the kid would still be dead.

I wonder what it's like walking around in life so blatantly ignorant.

wrong. it was a long distance to the crosswalk, meaning he would already have passed before they crossed the street, had they used the crosswalk like any other person.

I can't understand why people don't use the crosswalk on roads.

[Forever_frost]

wrong. it was a long distance to the crosswalk, meaning he would already have passed before they crossed the street, had they used the crosswalk like any other person.

I can't understand why people don't use the crosswalk on roads.

This. She chose to cross a busy road with her slower child, at a place that wasn't safe. Her fault. I'm not saying he's not guilty as sin, I'm saying she's guilty as well. She failed on her obligation to protect her child and, knowing where the crosswalk was, chose to put her child in harm's way.

[Silverback]

While the mother is negligent, she did not kill her child, and I think the charges she was facing were a bit outrageous.

The automobile was the weapon used that killed the child.

The hard part here is trying to determine if the drunk driver would have hit them if they had been in a crosswalk, and not jaywalking. If they mother and child would have been crossing under a cross/do not cross sign, then the drunk driver would have had a red light acting putting the fault in his hands.

[JC316]

While the mother is negligent, she did not kill her child, and I think the charges she was facing were a bit outrageous.

The automobile was the weapon used that killed the child.

The hard part here is trying to determine if the drunk driver would have hit them if they had been in a crosswalk, and not jaywalking. If they mother and child would have been crossing under a cross/do not cross sign, then the drunk driver would have had a red light acting putting the fault in his hands.

My opinion, driving drunk = fault in his hands because he shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.

[kingjason]

I need to see the road. I mean what if it was like 175 or N Dallas Beltline at rush hour?

Of course the drunk driver might have still got her anywhere she was.

[kingjason]

http://dc.streetsblog.org/2011/07/22/the-streets-and-the-courts-failed-raquel-nelson-can-advocacy-save-her/

Screw that its only a 4 lane divided road so two lanes at a time is all she had to make. Way to kick the victim.

[Sleeper]

My opinion, driving drunk = fault in his hands because he shouldn't have been on the road in the first place.

The same thing could be said for the lady jaywalking. They have cross walks for a reason.

It's a sad situation for everyone involved.

[SouthernSVT]

The drunk driver deserves everything he got if not more, but the mother did endanger her child. On a busy roadway at night anyone could have accidentally hit them. The fact that the guy had been drinking makes her look better, but it could have easily been some sober guy coming home from donating to charity. That road looks like it could be similar to a Rufe Snow, Lancaster, Belt Line, or Denton Tap type road. How easy would it be for someone to not see some kids running across a busy street at night, and not be able to stop in time. The main thing that makes this dude a piece of shit is that he didn't stop, but she definatly deserves her majority share of the blame for it happening in the first place.

[KBScobravert]

Contributory negligence on the mom's behalf but the loss of her kid will be punishment enough.

The drunk killed the kid.

[JC316]

The same thing could be said for the lady jaywalking. They have cross walks for a reason.

It's a sad situation for everyone involved.

True, but unless she jumped out from behind a car or some shit, a sober person would be much more likely to react quick enough to slow down or swerve around. 3/10 of a mile just to cross a damned street is bull shit.

[ram57ta]

If every person in the United States that's ever committed the horrible crime of jaywalking outside of a designated crosswalk were charged for it and actually paid their fine...the US national debt problem would end almost immediately. Give me a fucking break. Blaming the mom for the kids death is beyond retarded....I'm shocked that ANYONE could even consider it.