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  • #31
    More than anything else it has come down to cylinder heads. The LSX engines have great heads from the factory. The SBC always had a great selection. Now that every Ford engine has decent heads available you are going to see more Ford engines used although I don't think you will see the SBC and LSX setups go away because of price.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Frank View Post
      My experience...it depends on what you started with. If you start out with a long block with nothing but the block and heads built and you don't have the timing cover, water pump, or any of the other dress for the front of the motor like pullies, brackets etc, it is a ROYAL PITA to hunt these down and get the right combination. There are 8 different timing covers and they have to be used with the correct rotation wp. There are several different water pumps too depending on the outlets, rotation, depth, steel or aluminum... Then you have to get the right combination of pulleys so their depth all match up to get a belt to align and I'm just talking simple V-belt pulleys. That is all besides the different balancers, flexplates, flywheel combinations that have to work together. Also the oil pans and pump pickup. If you get into the early 5 bolt SBF, there you have issues with finding a trans to fit. There is a long as list of things if you are staring from scratch.

      SBC....there are things that do not interchange, but its a lot less and there are more options.
      Bingo.

      Chevy stuff bolts together and works. You can take a '55 SBC and a '60 SBC and a '65 SBC and a '70 SBC and a '75 SBC and an '80 SBC and an '85 SBC and pull them all apart, build an engine from the parts, and it's going to bolt up, be in balance, and make good power.

      Ford stuff requires careful planning and parts chasing, and STILL leaves you scratching your head when it's out of balance, or has 1/2" head bolts instead of 7/16", or has rods that are .065" too long, or a timing cover without a dipstick hole or some other goofball stupid shit.

      Not to mention, the SBF is a long engine and has the oil pump up front where it interferes with crossmembers and steering. SBCs are wider, but are generally easier to swap than Fords.

      4.6 DOHC > ls1
      5.0 DOHC > ls3
      302/351 > 305/350
      BBF CJ > BBC
      You don't seem to understand math symbols. Your greater thans should be less thans.
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      • #33
        Aside from the bench racing going on above the biggest reason I've seen is aesthetics. Most Chevy's look cleaner than Ford due to the location of the distributor. I've asked around a few of the car shows and other than personal preference/know how, this was one of the main reasons that I could find. YMMV.

        Edit side by side.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Grimpala View Post
          I think he's just looking at which numbers are bigger.

          Wonder if he knows the ls6 came out before the ls3?
          C5 zo6 is the second coolest vette ever made. Next to the c6 zo6.

          Fuck a supercharged camaro motor vette..

          The cts v with a ls6 is slower then the lsa v, but it's cooler.

          I like n/a.

          320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
            C5 zo6 is the second coolest vette ever made. Next to the c6 zo6.

            Fuck a supercharged camaro motor vette..

            The cts v with a ls6 is slower then the lsa v, but it's cooler.

            I like n/a.
            Nobody said anything about the vette. You do realize that the ls3 isn't supercharged right?

            G'Day Mate

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Darren M View Post
              Aside from the bench racing going on above the biggest reason I've seen is aesthetics. Most Chevy's look cleaner than Ford due to the location of the distributor. I've asked around a few of the car shows and other than personal preference/know how, this was one of the main reasons that I could find. YMMV.

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              Although you make a good point, the pictures you used to do it aren't exactly apples to apples.
              G'Day Mate

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
                i promise if his 1st car was a camaro instead of that coupe that would be 100% reversed.

                god bless.
                Ford makes 315hp out of a 4.6l v8.

                Chevy makes less then 50 more hp with 1100 more cc. How is a ls1 impressive?

                5.0l DOHC makes 412hp and a 6.2l makes 426hp?

                Based off power ford has it in the bag IMO. They do the same power with over 1000cc less. That's impressive.

                So yeah you can throw a cam in a ls1 and make power, it's got 1100 more cc!

                Add the displacement with a small roots charger (03 cobra) and the ls1 gets bit by the snake!

                320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

                DD: 2004 GMC Sierra VHO 6.0 LQ9 324whp 350wtrq

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Grimpala View Post
                  Nobody said anything about the vette. You do realize that the ls3 isn't supercharged right?

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS_engine
                  Lol the ls9/lsa is a ls3 with a supercharger.

                  Am I wrong?

                  320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

                  DD: 2004 GMC Sierra VHO 6.0 LQ9 324whp 350wtrq

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                  • #39
                    I am a ford guy.

                    But I'll tell you my very first memory I have as a child.

                    Me and my mom were living in an apartment and I looked outside and saw a IRoC camaro I said "mommy that's badass".

                    I didn't like mustangs over ws6 until I was 16, and I've been into fox body's since I was 12.

                    I'm not calling ls1s slow I'm saying I don't think they are as cool or impressive.

                    320rwhp. 7.67 @ 90mph 1.7 60'

                    DD: 2004 GMC Sierra VHO 6.0 LQ9 324whp 350wtrq

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                    • #40
                      The LSx makes more power with 75% fewer camshafts!
                      Originally posted by Broncojohnny
                      HOORAY ME and FUCK YOU!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                        Ford makes 315hp out of a 4.6l v8.

                        Chevy makes less then 50 more hp with 1100 more cc. How is a ls1 impressive?

                        5.0l DOHC makes 412hp and a 6.2l makes 426hp?

                        Based off power ford has it in the bag IMO. They do the same power with over 1000cc less. That's impressive.

                        So yeah you can throw a cam in a ls1 and make power, it's got 1100 more cc!

                        Add the displacement with a small roots charger (03 cobra) and the ls1 gets bit by the snake!
                        with your logic a 1997 honda prelude beats the new 5.0 dohc it has a 2.2l w/200hp, ford is getting an extra 2.8l's, 2.6x bigger engine, they'd make 520hp if it were a 5.0 v8!!!

                        if if's and but's were candy and nuts, well, then you'd probably go faster then 9.0!

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                          Lol the ls9/lsa is a ls3 with a supercharger.

                          Am I wrong?
                          That's the LS9, not the LS3. Might be the same parts with FI, but it's a totally different engine in regards to this discussion.
                          G'Day Mate

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by 91CoupeMike View Post
                            Ford makes 315hp out of a 4.6l v8.

                            Chevy makes less then 50 more hp with 1100 more cc. How is a ls1 impressive?

                            5.0l DOHC makes 412hp and a 6.2l makes 426hp?

                            Based off power ford has it in the bag IMO. They do the same power with over 1000cc less. That's impressive.

                            So yeah you can throw a cam in a ls1 and make power, it's got 1100 more cc!

                            Add the displacement with a small roots charger (03 cobra) and the ls1 gets bit by the snake!
                            Always gotta throw the FI argument in. Slap a comparable blower on the LS and see where you're at.
                            G'Day Mate

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                            • #44
                              C.I. for C.I. , give me a ford motor.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Grimpala View Post
                                Always gotta throw the FI argument in. Slap a comparable blower on the LS and see where you're at.
                                Setting records?
                                Originally posted by Broncojohnny
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