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    Let me start off by saying when it comes to paypal, you are GUILTY until proven INNOCENT. These guys have been nothing but dicks to me for something I know nothing about. So here's the story:

    Two days ago, I receieved this email:


    Dear Daniel,

    What's the problem?

    To help protect our members' accounts, we routinely review account
    activity. When we reviewed your activity, we noticed that you have more
    than one Personal account or more than one Premier or Business account. In
    addition, we noticed one or more of the following other reasons to limit
    your account and terminate our services:

    • You provided us with information that we believe was false, inaccurate or
    misleading information; or
    • You sent or received funds that were potentially fraudulent; or
    • You have more than one account with a negative balance; or
    • You are in violation of the User Agreement, the Commercial Entity
    Agreement, the Acceptable Use Policy or another agreement you have with
    PayPal.
    Our decision was based on terms outlined in these agreements.

    What to do next

    Because of these issues, your account(s) has been permanently limited and
    we can no longer offer our services to you. You will still be able to
    log-in to see your transaction history for a limited time.

    If you believe you've received this message in error you may appeal the
    decision by contacting PayPal at the Help Center and clicking "Contact Us".
    Please be prepared to provide one or all of the following pieces of
    information; drivers' license, social security or tax ID card, current
    utility bill, business license, articles of incorporation or other
    identifying documentation.

    If you don't appeal this decision within 14 days, we will use any positive
    balance in your PayPal accounts to resolve any negative balance you have.

    To protect against the risk of reversals like buyer complaints or
    chargebacks, we will hold the funds in your account for up to 45 days. We
    will use your account balance to pay for any reversals we receive against
    your account. You'll receive an email within this time period advising you
    that any balance in your account is available for withdrawal. Once you
    receive this email, you can log into your account and click "Withdraw" at
    the top of the page to receive your funds.


    Thanks,
    PayPal

    Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
    will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
    and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.


    Now we've all seen them... the emails asking you to login, with a link, etc. Scam emails... I assumed this was just that, but went to my account to check just to make sure. My account had a note on it saying that it was Limited. Clicked on the limited link, and it has the same email above... So I called Paypal, and asked what was going on. I was told that due to some transactions on one of my accounts, they were going to discontinue doing business with me. I asked why and what he was talking about, but he would tell me nothing. Just "We no longer want your business." I bitched and complained, asked for supervisors, Legal Dept address, etc. Finally he said he'd send it to his dispute department... Now before we go any further, I have used Paypal 4 times this year... 2 Charity donations, and I bought a bird cage cover and a phone case. Thats it. So he sends my case to disputes, and I am supposed to hear back within 24 hours.

    Yesterday I get this email:


    Dear Daniel,

    To protect all members of our online community, we must part ways with you.
    We've reviewed your PayPal account and determined there is excessive risk
    involved in doing business with you. To minimize the disruption to your
    business, you can continue to log in to your account for the next 180 days.

    If you have a negative balance, please add money to your PayPal account. If
    you choose not to add money and bring your balance to at least zero, we
    reserve the right to collect the money through legal means.

    Please go to the Resolution Center to resolve any outstanding buyer
    complaints or chargebacks. If you would like to refund any of your buyers,
    reply to this email with the transaction details. We'll send a refund on
    your behalf using money from your PayPal balance.

    Here's how to view the status of a buyer complaint:

    1. Go to www.paypal.com and log in to your account.
    2. Click 'Resolution Centre' near the top of the page.
    3. Select 'Open Cases' from the drop-down list next to 'View.'
    4. Click 'Status' next to the transaction.

    After 180 days, we'll contact you with information on how to withdraw any
    money in your PayPal account. You'll be able to transfer money to your bank
    account or request a check. You can't withdraw it now because we want to
    make sure that you have money in your account to cover any new payment
    reversals.

    If you'd like more information about our policies, please read our User
    Agreement. Click 'Legal Agreements' at the bottom of any PayPal page, and
    then click 'User Agreement for PayPal Service.'


    Sincerely,
    Shane
    PayPal Account Review Department
    PayPal, an eBay Company

    Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
    will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
    and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.

    PPID PP1448


    I call back, got a different guy who was actually pretty nice. I explained what was going on, and he informed me that someone using the email address: usacash4@hotmail.com created a paypal account with my name, address, etc. and used it for some kind of fraudulent activity on Etrade. He could not tell me what as it is against their privacy rules. But they are shutting down my paypal account and there is nothing that can be done. He sent it to disputes again, and I got this email this morning:

    Hello Daniel,

    We appreciate your interest in PayPal; however, our decision to leave your
    account in a permanent limitation status is final.

    PayPal reserves the right to limit access to any account reported to be
    involved in possible fraudulent or high risk behavior. In the event of a
    dispute, PayPal will seek to recover the funds from you by debiting your
    PayPal balance and, if there are not sufficient funds in your PayPal
    balance, PayPal reserves the right to collect your debt to PayPal by any
    other legal means.

    Due to the potential risk of chargebacks and other risks of funds
    reversals, your balance will be held 180 days from the date the limitation
    was originally placed on your account. At that time, any remaining funds
    will be available for withdrawal.

    Sincerely,

    PayPal Account Review Department
    PayPal, an eBay Company

    Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
    will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
    and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.

    PPID PP1448


    Im in the process of filing a police report for the identity theft, and I put a fraud alert on my credit files, but Paypal is making me feel like a peice of shit for something I know nothing about. Refusing to do business with me, not even trying to confirm that I am who I am and had nothing to do with this other account etc.

    This shit sucks.

  • #2
    Fuck Paypal. There are so many stories of people getting screwed by them you are better off parting ways with them. Sucks about the identity theft though.
    I don't use Paypal anymore after I found out their policies on weapons and other types of purchases that they have no business in trying to limit.
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    • #3
      Sucks that you're going through all that hassle. I'd recommend checking this out.

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      • #4
        So far I've not had any seriously negative issues with PayPal since starting an account with them 8 years ago. I recently got a class action refund for an undelivered merchandise claim I had filed outside of their 60 day (at the time) limit about five years ago.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The King View Post
          So far I've not had any seriously negative issues with PayPal since starting an account with them 8 years ago. I recently got a class action refund for an undelivered merchandise claim I had filed outside of their 60 day (at the time) limit about five years ago.
          Me either until 2 days ago. Ive been with them for 7 years. And all of a sudden, no warning, bam. Im a peice of shit and they don't want my business.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tx Redneck View Post
            Sucks that you're going through all that hassle. I'd recommend checking this out.

            http://zanderins.com/idtheft/idtheft.aspx
            Ive heard Dave talk about this group. I'll check them out, thanks!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trick Pony View Post
              Fuck Paypal. There are so many stories of people getting screwed by them you are better off parting ways with them. Sucks about the identity theft though.
              I don't use Paypal anymore after I found out their policies on weapons and other types of purchases that they have no business in trying to limit.
              Who do you use for online purchases then?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by danielhv View Post
                Ive heard Dave talk about this group. I'll check them out, thanks!
                You're welcome. Their reputation speaks for itself.

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                • #9
                  That sucks. I've had PayPal for years and the two disputes I had were ruled in my favor.

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                  • #10
                    Where were the charitable donations to geographically? If you don't mind me asking that is...
                    Originally posted by Cmarsh93z
                    Don't Fuck with DFWmustangs...the most powerfull gang I have ever been a member of.

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                    • #11
                      It's reasons like daniel's that I do not keep a balance in my PP account. I have a credit card linked for the odd/random eBay purchase.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 347Mike View Post
                        Where were the charitable donations to geographically? If you don't mind me asking that is...
                        One was in Dallas, for a gaming clan to build a new rig for one of our members that is battling cancer.

                        The other was to a non-profit in Flower Mound. I ordered a hat, and they send all the proceeds to the Make a Wish foundation.

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                        • #13
                          I've had two disputed transactions through paypal and both were in my favor and in neither case were they able to do anything since the attached accounts were closed or had a zero balance. Completely useless "service" in my opinion.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IHaveAMustang View Post
                            It's reasons like daniel's that I do not keep a balance in my PP account. I have a credit card linked for the odd/random eBay purchase.
                            I didn't have a balance either. They didnt access MY account. Just created a new one using MY information, so now paypal thinks its ME since they saw the fraudulent account has the same contact information as mine.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tx Redneck View Post
                              You're welcome. Their reputation speaks for itself.
                              Just signed up. $6.50/mo is easy to deal with. I would have expected it to cost more. Thanks again.

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