North Korea just attacked South Korea.

[Denny]

I don't think it was so much as stubborn as it was a lack of an ass-whoopin'. Korea was pretty much a tie. One side or the other needed to be beat down to decide anything and that didn't happen.

[mstng86]

I don't think it was so much as stubborn as it was a lack of an ass-whoopin'. Korea was pretty much a tie. One side or the other needed to be beat down to decide anything and that didn't happen.

What really screwed the whole thing was China. If they hadn't stuck the tip of their dick in the whole thing, it would have all been worked out when my grandfather was my age.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

There is an apparent reason that SK has never used a heavy hand in retaliation against these baiting attacks. They know that the immediate consequence to outright war is they lose Seoul. Although the ROK Army can handle the fight against the North, the economic impact of such a conflict has got to be the main deterrent.

NK has done this type of thing in the past and then backs off in exchange for all kinds of cash and prizes from SK and the US.

It, apparently, has always been cheaper and easier to placate Kim Jong I'll take 1 millllion dollars... er, 100 billllion dollars.

[CJ-95GT]

What really screwed the whole thing was China. If they hadn't stuck the tip of their dick in the whole thing, it would have all been worked out when my grandfather was my age.

Exactly! China would probably intervene again if war broke out. In the end, this would be a US vs China tragedy. The question is, do we nuke them before they nuke us?

[Chili]

Exactly! China would probably intervene again if war broke out. In the end, this would be a US vs China tragedy. The question is, do we nuke them before they nuke us?

I don't believe that.. They would be stupid to jump in this time.

[SEB]

Exactly! China would probably intervene again if war broke out. In the end, this would be a US vs China tragedy. The question is, do we nuke them before they nuke us?

Shit we would all be ash if it went to that. Our country wants to talk everything out

[ozzeran]

there is an apparent reason that sk has never used a heavy hand in retaliation against these baiting attacks. They know that the immediate consequence to outright war is they lose seoul. Although the rok army can handle the fight against the north, the economic impact of such a conflict has got to be the main deterrent.

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[STFU]

Fuck foreplay, we should nuke China today

[SEB]

Fuck foreplay, we should nuke China today

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[GhostTX]

Ha fat chance. It is has been 50 years since this all started. I don't think it will end with a peaceful agreement without a war.

North Korea preaches reunification so much it is engrained in those peoples phsyche. They have been programmed to think that is the natural course of action and if need be war is a possible solution to the problem.

No doubt! Where's that video series where that guy flew into NK (from China) and did a documentary. That place is jacked up.

I don't think it was so much as stubborn as it was a lack of an ass-whoopin'. Korea was pretty much a tie. One side or the other needed to be beat down to decide anything and that didn't happen.

What really screwed the whole thing was China. If they hadn't stuck the tip of their dick in the whole thing, it would have all been worked out when my grandfather was my age.

It WOULD have ended if Truman didn't puss out and let MacArthur go into China and whoop ass there.

Exactly! China would probably intervene again if war broke out. In the end, this would be a US vs China tragedy. The question is, do we nuke them before they nuke us?

Back then was when the commies were pushing for puppets states. Russian had eastern Europe and China wanted some of their own, thus helping NK. NK since then didn't want to play with China. To my knowledge, China's not a fan of NK anymore.

[Moose242]

It WOULD have ended if Truman didn't puss out and let MacArthur go into China and whoop ass there.

That would have started World War III. The Sino-Soviet split had not occurred yet.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

skimmed this thread

N Korea uses it military might and defiance to posture for things like food, and money. The bad news is they just built a new nuclear enrichment facility, with dozens of centrifuges that could be used for nuke grade materials

S Korea is also posturing with the US as they failed to sign a trade deal with the Obama.

Which makes me wonder why we keep 30k odd troops there? Are they paying for that support? If not I say pull the troops out and nuke N Korea from orbit

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/north-korea-unveils-nuclear-plant-at-astonishing-speed-in-yongbyon/19727456

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704496104575627740592221262.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101121/pl_afp/usskoreaftatrade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Forces_Korea

[mstng86]

That would have started World War III. The Sino-Soviet split had not occurred yet.

Yup. Russia would have been in China full blast and we would have a huge clusterfuck.

of course, if our allies and us had won, then we wouldn't have to be worrying about nuclear issues, poisoning of kids toys, gas consumption rising and alot of other issues right now.

hmmmmmm oh how the world would have been different.

[Moose242]

Which makes me wonder why we keep 30k odd troops there? Are they paying for that support? If not I say pull the troops out and nuke N Korea from orbit

Because we are still at war with North Korea.

South Korea is a very critical trading partner and their existence in beneficial. If it weren't for our troops having a constant presence then long ago the North would have overrun the South during its developmental period. North Korea has the 5th largest standing army on the planet and has the most reserves of any country. Sure, they are behind most of the 1st world technologically, but they still could do some damage.

[ceyko]

I don't believe that.. They would be stupid to jump in this time.

I'd like to agree with ya, but something tells me if they feel "threatened" again they'd at a minimum provide all kinds of support - if not direct troops, planes and so forth.

No matter how you cut it, we don't want those two going at it. The death toll would be something the US has not seen in recent (last 40 years) history.