Gas Pump Etiquette

[STANGGT40]

Good comment...please continue foliwing me around sir. Whatever makes me a better poster.

i'm not following you around, just relax. everyone isn't out to get you. i'll stop responding to you, if it makes you feel better.

[mustangguy289]

take that a step further and look at used trucks, like i'm sure brent is going to buy. say he buys a used '05 dodge, similar to mine, for 18k with 80-100k miles...or he can buy that same truck with a gas motor with the same mileage for around 15k (guessing)... if he puts 150k on that diesel, he'll still be able to sell it for at least $10k...if you're lucky enough that the gas motor lasts, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that would give you much of anything for it, with 250k miles.

Please find actual prices and I will acknowledge your "facts".

[mustangguy289]

Manufacturer's make a difference as well, as some hold resale better than others Plus, you know MSRP means diddly these days. To take it a step further, I won't be buying new, to throw even more money (be it gas OR diesel) down the toilet. However, I get the point you are trying to make.



no shit.

You are more than welcome to use different numbers to prove mine wrong. Just please cite where you got the numbers. I know MSRP means diddly but it keeps it an even playing field when comparing like this. Until you show me other wise... my numbers are good enough for me.

[STANGGT40]

To get a more realistic view of the resale of a gas vs diesel... I did the following.I went to grapevine Ford and picked the highest price 2011 Lariat supercrew 4x4 in a f150 and f250 ( i ignored platinum, HD, raptors etc) to keep it as fair as possible. I used the MSRP before any discounts.

Used priced was found by using NADA and putting in 2008 model supercrew 4x4 fully loaded (same options for both) at 100,000 miles.


Fully Loaded Lariat F150 Supecrew 4x4
2011 MSRP (grapevine Ford): 51,000
2008 NADA clean retail: 28,875
Loss of 43% in value

Fully Loaded Lariat F250 Supercrew 4x4 diesel
2011 MSRP 64,000
2008 NADA clean retail: 35,675
Loss of 44% in value.

I would say the resale for the trucks is about the same when you look at it percentage wise. Off course the diesel will bring a higher price... but it also cost a higher price.

take that a step further and look at used trucks, like i'm sure brent is going to buy. say he buys a used '05 dodge, similar to mine, for 18k with 80-100k miles...or he can buy that same truck with a gas motor with the same mileage for around 15k (guessing)... if he puts 150k on that diesel, he'll still be able to sell it for at least $10k...if you're lucky enough that the gas motor lasts, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that would give you much of anything for it, with 250k miles.

[lowthreeohz]

How frequent do diesels change their oil? I've notice that alot of cars have finally extended the frequency of changes.

yeah, i was surprised when the sticker on my f150 was 5000 miles away.

[Ruffdaddy]

just relax and take a breather, nobody thinks you're jealous.

Good comment...please continue foliwing me around sir. Whatever makes me a better poster.

[Ruffdaddy]

How frequent do diesels change their oil? I've notice that alot of cars have finally extended the frequency of changes.

[STANGGT40]

I guarantee I'm not jealous of anyone retarded diesel. Just want to throw that out there...if I wanted one, I make well enough to buy one. But I don't need it, and done want to have to be reduced to bitchig about gas pumps. I have more pointless shit to whine about.

just relax and take a breather, nobody thinks you're jealous.

[bcoop]

To get a more realistic view of the resale of a gas vs diesel... I did the following.I went to grapevine Ford and picked the highest price 2011 Lariat supercrew 4x4 in a f150 and f250 ( i ignored platinum, HD, raptors etc) to keep it as fair as possible. I used the MSRP before any discounts.

Used priced was found by using NADA and putting in 2008 model supercrew 4x4 fully loaded (same options for both) at 100,000 miles.


Fully Loaded Lariat F150 Supecrew 4x4
2011 MSRP (grapevine Ford): 51,000
2008 NADA clean retail: 28,875
Loss of 43% in value

Fully Loaded Lariat F250 Supercrew 4x4 diesel
2011 MSRP 64,000
2008 NADA clean retail: 35,675
Loss of 44% in value.

I would say the resale for the trucks is about the same when you look at it percentage wise. Off course the diesel will bring a higher price... but it also cost a higher price.

Manufacturer's make a difference as well, as some hold resale better than others Plus, you know MSRP means diddly these days. To take it a step further, I won't be buying new, to throw even more money (be it gas OR diesel) down the toilet. However, I get the point you are trying to make.

New car prices, both gas and diesel, are just getting refuckingdiculous.

no shit.

[STANGGT40]

why? so you can pay 100 for oil changes, have a hard time parking, and drive a giant ass truck you wouldn't really use? doesn't make sense

oil changes are about $75-80...and you change it less frequently than gas vehicles, so it's not that bad. also, as much as i use my truck to haul stuff; i can't imagine driving a car anymore. not only that, i get better mileage than an equivalent gas truck...oh yeah, and the resale value thing helps as well.

[Ruffdaddy]

I guarantee I'm not jealous of anyone retarded diesel. Just want to throw that out there...if I wanted one, I make well enough to buy one. But I don't need it, and done want to have to be reduced to bitchig about gas pumps. I have more pointless shit to whine about.

[Cannon88]

New car prices, both gas and diesel, are just getting refuckingdiculous.

[mustangguy289]

I don't have one currently, but will again soon enough. Would you rather spend $30,000 on a gas truck that will be worth $10,000 when gas hits $4.50+ per gallon, or $30,000 for a truck that you can put 250,000 miles on, and still sell for $10,000+/- no matter what gas/diesel prices are like? It's a pretty clear choice to me.

To get a more realistic view of the resale of a gas vs diesel... I did the following.I went to grapevine Ford and picked the highest price 2011 Lariat supercrew 4x4 in a f150 and f250 ( i ignored platinum, HD, raptors etc) to keep it as fair as possible. I used the MSRP before any discounts.

Used priced was found by using NADA and putting in 2008 model supercrew 4x4 fully loaded (same options for both) at 100,000 miles.


Fully Loaded Lariat F150 Supecrew 4x4
2011 MSRP (grapevine Ford): 51,000
2008 NADA clean retail: 28,875
Loss of 43% in value

Fully Loaded Lariat F250 Supercrew 4x4 diesel
2011 MSRP 64,000
2008 NADA clean retail: 35,675
Loss of 44% in value.

I would say the resale for the trucks is about the same when you look at it percentage wise. Off course the diesel will bring a higher price... but it also cost a higher price.

[bcoop]

why? so you can pay 100 for oil changes, have a hard time parking, and drive a giant ass truck you wouldn't really use? doesn't make sense

I didn't have a hard time parking my 2500 (gas) when I had it, and I used it plenty. Sure, oil changes are $100, but they are less frequent than with a gas truck.

[bcoop]

Oh, and I still have a big dick, too.

Perpetuating the stereotype....