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  • Originally posted by The King View Post
    And what would a 2nd American Revolution install that would necessarily be any better than the current U.S. government? A true democracy??? Doesn't work.
    Stop thinking in the box. What about a smaller government that only did what was constitutionally legal.

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    • Originally posted by sc281 View Post
      You just don't get it, do you? The time frame of eroding our Civil Liberties is irrelevant. The fact that our Civil Liberties are being eroded AT ALL is the issue.
      The pendulum goes from liberal to conservative. It's a fact of life.

      If you don't like it, don't bitch and moan on an internet forum. Do something about it.

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      • Originally posted by Denny View Post
        Stop thinking in the box. What about a smaller government that only did what was constitutionally legal.

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        • Originally posted by Denny View Post
          Stop thinking in the box. What about a smaller government that only did what was constitutionally legal.
          That would be great of course, but it would not require something as dramatic as a "2nd American Revolution" to get there.

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          • Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
            The pendulum goes from liberal to conservative. It's a fact of life.

            If you don't like it, don't bitch and moan on an internet forum. Do something about it.
            I'm so glad the people like you charged with upholding our rights are so comfortable in accepting and facilitating the erosion of them.

            And you wonder why so many have such a dismal view of Law Enforcement.

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            • Originally posted by The King View Post
              That would be great of course, but it would not require something as dramatic as a "2nd American Revolution" to get there.
              Bullshit. Give me ONE other solution.

              I'll boot your ass off the island if you say some crap like, "Get out and vote" or "Write your Congressman."

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              • Originally posted by Denny View Post
                Bullshit. Give me ONE other solution.

                I'll boot your ass off the island if you say some crap like, "Get out and vote" or "Write your Congressman."
                Move to costa rica?

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                • Originally posted by The King View Post
                  And what would a 2nd American Revolution install that would necessarily be any better than the current U.S. government? A true democracy??? Doesn't work.
                  The framework is already there, it would be a return to initial normalcy, provided the revolutionaries won. If the 'other side' won, it would be Soviet Russia.

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                  • Originally posted by Denny View Post
                    Bullshit. Give me ONE other solution.

                    I'll boot your ass off the island if you say some crap like, "Get out and vote" or "Write your Congressman."
                    Education for one. Consider that mass support for a revolution just isn't there. Remember that the majority of voters gave us Obama....do you really think they would join any revolutionary uprising that required effort or risk on their part.

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                    • Originally posted by 03trubluGT View Post
                      That wasn't me.

                      The difference between polite and pushy asshole is perception. If you're easily offended, then you need to grow a thicker skin.
                      Because you're an asshole...it's my problem? Man your profession is shining through!

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                      • Originally posted by The King View Post
                        Education for one. Consider that mass support for a revolution just isn't there. Remember that the majority of voters gave us Obama....do you really think they would join any revolutionary uprising.
                        Since most of them are limp-wristed tree huggers, the question would be: Would you want them in your Army?

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                        • Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                          Since most of them are limp-wristed tree huggers, the question would be: Would you want them in your Army?
                          H*ll no, but they are nonetheless the so-called "majority". What would give a true revolutionary minority the authority to dictate through force what the majority should think and do? Then the revolutionaries become the very thing they're opposed to.

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                          • Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                            I'm so glad the people like you charged with upholding our rights are so comfortable in accepting and facilitating the erosion of them.

                            And you wonder why so many have such a dismal view of Law Enforcement.
                            What the fcku am I going to do to change with the current environment of the Supreme Court? I have to adapt and overcome, just like everyone else.

                            My bitching about it won't change it, so I have to work within the parameters that are set before me.

                            I've found that mostly those that have a dismal view of law enforcement do so becuase of their unwillingness to accept personal responsibility.

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                            • You people are still failing to realize the military is NOT going to abandon the federal government without good cause. The lower enlisted ranks who would be the easiest to sway don't have enough leaderships, weapons, supplies, or ability to carry on a revolution; officers are not going to desert the Federal government en mass without SERIOUS fuck ups by the government or by a large change in allegiances by the flag grade officers who also are not going to abandon the Federal government solely on the charge or slowly eroding civil liberties.

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                              • Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                                Since most of them are limp-wristed tree huggers, the question would be: Would you want them in your Army?
                                Sucking the dicks of democracy - The Obama Army.

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