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    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday gave police more leeway to break into residences in search of illegal drugs.

    The justices in an 8-1 decision said officers who loudly knock on a door and then hear sounds suggesting evidence is being destroyed may break down the door and enter without a search warrant.

    Residents who "attempt to destroy evidence have only themselves to blame" when police burst in, said Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

    In a lone dissent, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said she feared the ruling in a Kentucky case will give police an easy way to ignore the 4th Amendment. "Police officers may not knock, listen and then break the door down," she said, without violating the 4th Amendment.

    In the past, the court has said police usually may not enter a home unless they have a search warrant or the permission of the owner. As Alito said, "The 4th Amendment has drawn a firm line at the entrance to the house."

    One exception to that rule involves an emergency, such as screams coming from a house. Police may also pursue a fleeing suspect who enters a residence. Police were attempting to do that in the Kentucky case, but they entered the wrong apartment, raising the issue of what is permissible in situations where police have reason to believe evidence is being destroyed.

    It began when police in Lexington, Ky., were following a suspect who allegedly had sold crack cocaine to an informer and then walked into an apartment building. They did not see which apartment he entered, but when they smelled marijuana smoke come from one of the apartments, they wrongly assumed he had gone into that one. They pounded on the door and called "Police. Police. Police," and heard the sounds of people moving.

    At this, the officers announced they were coming in, and they broke down the door. They found Hollis King smoking marijuana, and put him under arrest. They also found powder cocaine. King was convicted of drug trafficking and sentenced to 11 years in prison.

    But the Kentucky Supreme Court overturned his conviction and ruled the apartment break-in violated his 4th Amendment right against "unreasonable searches and seizures." Police had created an emergency by pounding on the door, the state justices said.

    The Supreme Court heard an appeal from state prosecutors and reversed the ruling in Kentucky vs. King. Alito said the police conduct in this case "was entirely lawful," and they were justified in breaking down the door to prevent the destruction of the evidence.

    "When law enforcement officers who are not armed with a warrant knock on a door, they do no more than any private citizen may do," he wrote. A resident need not respond, he added. But the sounds of people moving and perhaps toilets being flushed could justify police entering without a warrant, he added.

    "Destruction of evidence issues probably occur most frequently in drug cases because drugs may be easily destroyed by flushing down a toilet," he added.

    The ruling was not a final loss for King. The justices said the Kentucky state court should consider again whether the police faced an emergency situation in this case.

    Ginsburg, however, said the court's approach "arms the police with a way routinely to dishonor the 4th Amendment's warrant requirement in drug cases." She said the police did not face a "genuine emergency" and should not have been allowed to enter the apartment without a warrant.

    david.savage@latimes.com

  • #2
    What a fucking joke. I see this being HEAVILY abused.

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    • #3
      Where do you turn when the Supreme Court is wrong???
      .

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 71chevellejohn View Post
        Where do you turn when the Supreme Court is wrong???
        To the rooftops with the Remington 700

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        • #5
          Damn. I'm not a gun guy, but that is one bad lookin' motherfucker!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by talisman View Post
            Damn. I'm not a gun guy, but that is one bad lookin' motherfucker!
            I'm taking my son out to shoot it when I get home in June. You're welcome to squeeze off a few rounds.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Denny View Post
              I'm taking my son out to shoot it when I get home in June. You're welcome to squeeze off a few rounds.
              I think I just did!

              Man, that is sweetness!

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              • #8
                LOL... you should see some of the other stuff.

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                • #9
                  Himmler would be proud.
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                  Originally posted by racrguy
                  Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Denny View Post
                    To the rooftops with the Remington 700
                    Damn dude, no wonder your not afraid of the end times. I figured you had quite the arsenal. I woudl be interested in more details of that rifle.

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                    • #11
                      Um guys, this is old news... An Officer is allowed to enter a residence by force during exigent circumstances. I.E. Screams from the residence, someone getting there rear beat, evidence being destroyed ("Oh shit! Flush the crack! Flush the Crack!"), etc.
                      I learned this in the Academy back in 2006... So dont worry about this being something newand abused. Its been done in TX for a long while.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by inline 6 View Post
                        Damn dude, no wonder your not afraid of the end times. I figured you had quite the arsenal. I woudl be interested in more details of that rifle.
                        Remington 700 VTR .308 with 5S rifling (it's all in the twist, LOL). SWFA set up the optics and had it painted to match.

                        (For the zombies in the distance)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tannerm View Post
                          Um guys, this is old news... An Officer is allowed to enter a residence by force during exigent circumstances. I.E. Screams from the residence, someone getting there rear beat, evidence being destroyed ("Oh shit! Flush the crack! Flush the Crack!"), etc.
                          I learned this in the Academy back in 2006... So dont worry about this being something newand abused. Its been done in TX for a long while.
                          They haven't been able to kick down the door to the wrong residence, lie about "hearing some noises" to cover up the mistake and admit what they found as evidence of a crime until now.
                          Originally posted by racrguy
                          What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
                          Originally posted by racrguy
                          Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tannerm View Post
                            Um guys, this is old news... An Officer is allowed to enter a residence by force during exigent circumstances. I.E. Screams from the residence, someone getting there rear beat, evidence being destroyed ("Oh shit! Flush the crack! Flush the Crack!"), etc.
                            I learned this in the Academy back in 2006... So dont worry about this being something newand abused. Its been done in TX for a long while.
                            This is different, bro. It states basically that you cannot resist during lawful or unlawful entries by the police. That shit doesn't fly with anyone. We're talking no magistrates signing off or incidents without PC as well. That's the problem.


                            Edit: Disreagrd. I thought this was the OTHER forced entry by LEO thread for the State.

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                            • #15
                              Some more info
                              Yesterday the Court issued a decision in Kentucky v. King that was noteworthy not only for its holding, but also for the method that the Court used to arrive at its rule.


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