In n Out Frisco...bunch cops there?

[bcoop]

KK had their fryers going non stop for the first couple of days - now, it's a mere trickle of traffic compared to when they first came to town. Hype sells.

I can't even recall the last time I saw a KK. Every one I knew of is now gone. I never understood the KK hype either. They aren't good donuts IMO. Disgustingly sweet, not my cup of tea.

[Cooter]

I can't even recall the last time I saw a KK. Every one I knew of is now gone. I never understood the KK hype either. They aren't good donuts IMO. Disgustingly sweet, not my cup of tea.

exactly, your average asian-owned shit hole will destory KK

[red95gts]

I ate at an In-N-Out in Oakland, CA (Off Hegenberger by the Airport) last week. My flight got in nearly 9pm on a Sunday and I hadn't eaten so I figured "In-N-Out won't be busy at this time of night."

Bullshit. I ended up waiting over 30 mins just to get a #1 with Animal-style fries and it was a challenge to find a place to sit. The place was packed. Oakland is clearly not a touristy area and this location appeared to have been around a while. Considering this, I don't see why anyone thinks that In-N-Out is going to fizzle and go out of business in DFW?

The burgers aren't gourmet, but it's better than most fast food burger joints and the price is right, so I think it will do very well. It won't put anyone out of business, but it will hold it's own.

[Ruffdaddy]

By an airport makes a world of difference dude...

And most don't think they'll go out of business. Soon they'll just be another fast food place. I do think they'll have to expand their menu in the long run.

[red95gts]

The stupid fucks in Moore, OK camped out for two days when chic-fil-a opened last year. When JITB opened they had police directing traffic for almost a week.

<-- Not surprised people are camping out for fast food.

Not that its a good reason to camp outside a fast food joint like a fucking bum, but Chick-Fil-A at least gives people something in return:

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Locations/First-100

If I was going to win free fast food for a year, I think Chick-Fil-A would be my pick. The spicy chicken biscuit is the best fast food breakfast out there.

[red95gts]

By an airport makes a world of difference dude...

And most don't think they'll go out of business. Soon they'll just be another fast food place. I do think they'll have to expand their menu in the long run.

Have you been the the Oakland Airport? The terminal is always a ghost town. I fly into OAK anytime I go to the Bay Area and that's precisely why.

[Steve]

Without a doubt there is no way it will stay as busy as it was yesterday.


Another thing, a Double Double at INO is only 3.75 which is quite abit cheaper than Whataburger which could be a bonus for them. With INO using local farmers for their veggies and meat, I'd imagine their cost is lower (as well as much fresher).

It should be interesting to see how INO does in a new market like DFW over a long period of time. I wonder if the script was flipped, how would Whataburger do in California? Would it be comparable to INO's success here?

[Barbie]

I get why you guys are comparing in n out to krispy Kreme but think about how often you eat a donut vs a burger.

[GE]

I get why you guys are comparing in n out to krispy Kreme but think about how often you eat a donut vs a burger.

Hey, how do you feel about chicken strips?

[bcoop]

Without a doubt there is no way it will stay as busy as it was yesterday.


Another thing, a Double Double at INO is only 3.75 which is quite abit cheaper than Whataburger which could be a bonus for them. With INO using local farmers for their veggies and meat, I'd imagine their cost is lower (as well as much fresher).

It should be interesting to see how INO does in a new market like DFW over a long period of time. I wonder if the script was flipped, how would Whataburger do in California? Would it be comparable to INO's success here?

As of right now, in TX at least, there is nothing cheap about local grown. It's in high demand, so the cost is up there. This WILL change as more operators go green, and the market drives the demand (tail wagging the dog). Right now, locally sourced locally grown is a fad. That fad will grow to a trend, and eventually will become the standard. It's just not there in this market yet. It's already the standard in other markets, just not TX.


As for WB in Cali- I don't see WB having the same success. As you mentioned, there are a LOT of Cali transplants here. I'd venture to guess TX to Cali transplants aren't as high in numbers. Just my opinion of course.

[Cooter]

I get why you guys are comparing in n out to krispy Kreme but think about how often you eat a donut vs a burger.

I eat both daily... for brunch... washed down with whiskey...

what now?

[Skidmark]

I get why you guys are comparing in n out to krispy Kreme but think about how often you eat a donut vs a burger.

Heart-attack warning!

[Broncojohnny]

Look no further than Krispy Kreme for a precedent. And there are hundred of examples just like them. But hey, more power to them. I just won't be giving them any o my money.

I followed KK pretty closely because they were public. The problem with the company is that they sold shares and because the stock was so popular, they raked in tons of capital and they felt like they had to expand. So they ended up opening a ton of stores. Then on top of that they started boxing up their donuts and putting them in grocery stores. They saturated every possible outlet for their product. I have no idea why they would sell them in grocery stores, it is bizarre to me. In the end, they had so much capital from the share sales that they opened too many locations and had to start cooking the books with sales to justify the number of locations. They started booking sales of donuts as soon as they shipped to grocery stores. Not long after they started shipping the stores much more than they ordered and calling that product a sale as well, even though the stores would send the overshipped product back to them. They got caught in the act and it was a disaster.

I don't think In and Out will have that saturation problem. Their model so far has been one that somewhat promotes scarcity of their product. They don't have a store on ever corner on the West Coast as far as I know. I don't think they will here either. Eventually I bet they go public and the private owners make tons of money. It will be interesting to see if they get bit by the expansion bug like KK. They certainly have the hype of KK right now.

[Big A]

It should be interesting to see how INO does in a new market like DFW over a long period of time. I wonder if the script was flipped, how would Whataburger do in California? Would it be comparable to INO's success here?

I sincerely doubt it, In-n-out has the "mystique" of their secret menu, though I've met several SoCalers that are completely enamoured with the cliche'd Texas that they've seen on TV and the big screen. There's nothing inherently "Texas" about Whataburger though, other than local sentiments.

[Roscoe]

By an airport makes a world of difference dude...

And most don't think they'll go out of business. Soon they'll just be another fast food place. I do think they'll have to expand their menu in the long run.

Just curious when the last time they changed their menu was....