Woman mauled to death by...

[Cooter]

Genetic disability is your go to comparison?

Genetics is my go to...

I guess I should have asked if he could train the spots off of a Dalmatian or something

[Cooter]

not a fair comparison... i think a fair one would be, have you ever gone into a store and see a kid just being a lil shit? who is to blame? not the kid, the parents.
great danes were breed to be dogs of war, you ever hear of someone getting attacked by them? (very seldom)

have you ever seen an Orca who was raised and trained from a baby and kills one of its trainers at Sea World?

how about a white tiger raised and trained from a cub who rips one of its owners throats out?

Great Danes were never bred as fighting dogs...

[forbes]

have you ever seen an Orca who was raised and trained from a baby and kills one of its trainers at Sea World?

how about a white tiger raised and trained from a cub who rips one of its owners throats out?

how about a kid who doesn't have a father figure going out and killing someone in a gang related drive by? this list can go on....

[Broncojohnny]

"You can't turn a whore into a housewife" or something like that.

[forbes]

"You can't turn a whore into a housewife" or something like that.

sure u can.... (as my wife just hit me back of the head lol)

[Dawkins]

so if I gave you a Down's syndrome baby, could you raise it into an adult who didn't have Down's?

If my child was diagnosed with downs I would abort it the same as I put a male pit down for freaking out on a seven year old boy. He was a rescue and I didn't have any issues until that day. He was put down the next day.

I was talking about the dead grass more than pit bull attacks.

[Cooter]

how about a kid who doesn't have a father figure going out and killing someone in a gang related drive by? this list can go on....

so you agree that it's a combination of nature AND nurture, right?

[Cooter]

If my child was diagnosed with downs I would abort it the same as I put a male pit down for freaking out on a seven year old boy. He was a rescue and I didn't have any issues until that day. He was put down the next day.

I was talking about the dead grass more than pit bull attacks.

I'm talking about the fact that pit bulls are OFTEN owned and bred by trash who won't destroy an aggressive animal... they'll breed it if it looks tough on a 3/8" chain

[forbes]

so you agree that it's a combination of nature AND nurture, right?

nice check mate try...
it sounds more like you are saying every nature in everything is to kill... if so, then why even worry about the pit bull....
i am saying it's all nurture

[forbes]

I'm talking about the fact that pit bulls are OFTEN owned and bred by trash who won't destroy an aggressive animal... they'll breed it if it looks tough on a 3/8" chain

i will 100% agree 0n this

[Dawkins]

I'm talking about the fact that pit bulls are OFTEN owned and bred by trash who won't destroy an aggressive animal... they'll breed it if it looks tough on a 3/8" chain

I agree.

[Machx2]

I'm talking about the fact that pit bulls are OFTEN owned and bred by trash who won't destroy an aggressive animal... they'll breed it if it looks tough on a 3/8" chain

Haha, my chain was just used when I lived in a house with no backyard fence. He snapped the smaller chains So I used a slightly bigger chain haha. He runs free now.

[Cooter]

nice check mate try...
it sounds more like you are saying every nature in everything is to kill... if so, then why even worry about the pit bull....
i am saying it's all nurture

I'm saying it's nature and nurture... I'm saying you can't train genetics... if a dog was bred for hundreds/thousands of generations to fight and kill, you're not going to just train it out of it...

great danes have been bred for well over 100yrs for good temperament and friendliness...

my aussie was bred for herding... his bloodline has about 20 generations of breeding purely for temperament... he's a "family" line, not a working line. BUT, he still tries to herd constantly!! LOL you can't just train that out of him...

the difference is, if my dog "snaps" and goes aggressive, he's just going to nip... he has no jaw strength.

if a pit bull snaps, it's going to do some damage... seen it first hand a number of times with dogs who "have never done anything like that!"

to think it's 100% nurture is just flat out ignorant... as fucking dumb as that dumbass who thought he could go to Alaska and live with the bears

[Cooter]

Haha, my chain was just used when I lived in a house with no backyard fence. He snapped the smaller chains So I used a slightly bigger chain haha. He runs free now.

just had to throw that in there

you guys act like I hate every pit bull on earth. I love them, actually... same as I love my diesel trucks. I have lots of friends with pit bulls. And most of them are big babies and my aussie is dominant over a lot of them.

But they have such a tarnished image (FOR LEGITIMATE REASONS) that I'd just rather not own one, and I'd rather that MOST people who own them didn't.

If none of this applies to you, don't take offense because I'm not talking about you or your dog.

[clevelandkid]

...He was a rescue and I didn't have any issues until that day. He was put down the next day.

That's pretty much how all these stories go. Just like all the ones about little pookie getting killed in a drive-by. He was a good by who didn't deserve to die - he would never hurt anybody.