More out of control hoodrats...

[sc281]

Or maybe she did it just to get them to stop since obviously the worthless ninja's in that place werent going to do anything but watch.

Agreed.

[Steve]

If you can justify the level of force needed as using your weapon, then all is well. Outnumbered, feared for the life of the old lady, blah blah blah...

Just cover your ass when the police show up and same in court. No biggie.

So what does the law say about intervening in a situation like this? I think alot of people don't know where the law stands on something like this and are afraid to get into trouble for getting involved.

I'm not familiar with the law, but can a CHL holder shoot another person (who is unarmed) on another person's behalf who is being assaulted without fear of being going to jail? Morally, I know it's the right thing to do to help someone in need, but shooting an unarmed person seems abit extreme to me considering the CHL holder wouldn't be in any direct harms way.

Even getting involved physicially without a weapon you could be risking assault charges, right? Police show up afterwards and just arrest everyone involved alot of times.

Don't jump on me guys, just a question.

[Snatch Napkin]

Or maybe she did it just to get them to stop since obviously the worthless ninja's in that place werent going to do anything but watch.

More than likely. It worked, so kudos to her for finding some survival instincts.


The entire group of people should be punished.

[no4njnk]

If the races were different this thing would be the top priority of everyone in the nation including you know who. But it's just another person that got beat up at a fast food joint. There are so many things that piss me off about this.

Once one person or group does something like this then there are people that follow in their footsteps. How many school shootings were there before Colombine?

[Jimbo]

So what does the law say about intervening in a situation like this? I think alot of people don't know where the law stands on something like this and are afraid to get into trouble for getting involved.

I'm not familiar with the law, but can a CHL holder shoot another person (who is unarmed) on another person's behalf who is being assaulted without fear of being going to jail? Morally, I know it's the right thing to do to help someone in need, but shooting an unarmed person seems abit extreme to me considering the CHL holder wouldn't be in any direct harms way.

Even getting involved physicially without a weapon you could be risking assault charges, right? Police show up afterwards and just arrest everyone involved alot of times.

Don't jump on me guys, just a question.

I would also be interested in knowing the exact law on this, I would assume if you felt that persons life was in danger, you could defend them with lethal force. But where does that draw the line between police and chl holders? Also, as far as unarmed assailants, if you have made the decision to draw your weapon and they attack you, I would hope self defense could be used as a defense.

[davbrucas]

If you draw your weapon to break up a girl fight, you need to go to jail...for Unlawful Possession of Testicles.

[mstng86]

If you draw your weapon to break up a girl fight, you need to go to jail...for Unlawful Possession of Testicles.

I contend those weren't "girls".

[clevelandkid]

Texas Penal Code 9.32 and 9.33 apply here...

§ 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON (a) A person
is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.31;
(2) if a reasonable person in the actor's situation
would not have retreated; and
(3) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect himself against the other's use or
attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual
assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
(b) The requirement imposed by Subsection (a)(2) does not
apply to an actor who uses force against a person who is at the time
of the use of force committing an offense of unlawful entry in the
habitation of the actor.


9.33. DEFENSE OF THIRD PERSON. A person is justified in
using force or deadly force against another to protect a third
person if:
(1) under the circumstances as the actor reasonably
believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9.31
or 9.32 in using force or deadly force to protect himself against
the unlawful force or unlawful deadly force he reasonably believes
to be threatening the third person he seeks to protect; and
(2) the actor reasonably believes that his
intervention is immediately necessary to protect the third person.


I think you would need to say you thought their actions would kill her, or that they were attempting to kidnap, rape, or rob her.

[davbrucas]

I contend those weren't "girls".

While they may be aggressive, black, smelly and disgusting, they are still girls and the only thing they are gonna do is pull hair, scratch and arm punch. If you have any skills at all, it is easy to defend yourself against that.

[Sean88gt]

If you draw your weapon to break up a girl fight, you need to go to jail...for Unlawful Possession of Testicles.

Here is the problem, you physically get involved and the aggression turns against you, potentially with bigger numbers. If put a fist in the face and knock them out I can almost guaranty that the employees would come at you at that point.

[Treasure Chest]

More than likely. It worked, so kudos to her for finding some survival instincts.


The entire group of people should be punished.

It's being said that the girl was actually a transsexual. The girls who beat her asked her to leave the women's bathroom, and she got smart with them. Haven't found anything on the news sites to substantiate it, though.

[mustang_revival]

Animals belong in a zoo.

[mstng86]

ah shit, I can't see it no moez.

[Jimbo]

It's being said that the girl was actually a transsexual. The girls who beat her asked her to leave the women's bathroom, and she got smart with them. Haven't found anything on the news sites to substantiate it, though.

Wow, search for anything and it will be found apparently.

http://www.break.com/fights/tranny-fight-in-taco-restaurant-2021356

[davbrucas]

Here is the problem, you physically get involved and the aggression turns against you, potentially with bigger numbers. If put a fist in the face and knock them out I can almost guaranty that the employees would come at you at that point.

If several guys come at you, then blast away.