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"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Indeed. All attempts at creating a successful caseless firearm have failed. The Daisy VL, the Gyrojet, the G11, and the VEC91 all never took off. The G11 got very far and was almost adopted by the West German army but the reunification killed the project and nearly bankrupted Heckler & Koch GMBH. It was however awesome:
I predict that conventionally cased ammunition will take us directly to phased 40 watt plasma rifles.Originally posted by lincolnboyAfter watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.
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Originally posted by DOHCTR View PostIndeed. All attempts at creating a successful caseless firearm have failed. The Daisy VL, the Gyrojet, the G11, and the VEC91 all never took off. The G11 got very far and was almost adopted by the West German army but the reunification killed the project and nearly bankrupted Heckler & Koch GMBH. It was however awesome:
I predict that conventionally cased ammunition will take us directly to phased 40 watt plasma rifles."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Indeed. Look at this bullshit and try to wrap your head around how this works and how your average German conscript would be able to maintain it/fix it in the field:
Originally posted by lincolnboyAfter watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.
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really cool find. I like Ray's myself. You sometimes pay a bit more but they have all kinds of things in stock and on hand. It's definitely a candy shop for men.
The real cop killer bullets are legal to own. M2-AP with tungsten core. I need to get me some M2-AP bullets.
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Originally posted by Moose242 View PostSo I was at Ray's yesterday kicking around when I stumbled upon this stuff. It is 5.7mm caseless ammunition that was on the back of a rack. It was covered in dust but I knew immediately what it was due to wasting hours looking at random gun crap on the net. The only firearm in history to use the round was the Voere VEC-91 electronic rifle. I bought a box for $33 just to keep as a collectible and then thought "this has to be worth money" so I looked for some online. I found one box on GB for $100, so I went back and bought the other 9 boxes they had. This stuff is incredible. It weighs a third as much as a regular .223 round and maintains the same performance characteristics!
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