If you cant buy'em, build'em

[David]

Assuming anything he makes is strictly for his own usage. What would be the difference(in the ATF's eyes) from this and finishing out a "80%" lower?

Just curious.

Nothing I know of. But I do have friends who own their own machine shops and themselves wont manufacture their own guns on their machines.

Its just something to keep in mind and could go the wrong direction if someone miss interpreted something the wrong way.

[bird_dog0347]

So how does that work? Do you have to give it a serial number and register it with the ATF? What about uppers, are those legal to make for others?

[phaux]

So how does that work? Do you have to give it a serial number and register it with the ATF? What about uppers, are those legal to make for others?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the lower has to have your name, a SN, and city and state it was manufactured in. It all has to be in a minimum size and type of font designated by the ATF as well.

Uppers are not considered a weapon so those and any other part of an AR you could make all day long and sell with no worries.

As far making one goes, as long as you load it in the mill and you're the one that pushes the big red button then it doesn't matter who wrote the program or where it is done. There are companies that make jigs and tooling specifically for this sort of thing.

I can understand companies being weary of allowing firearms to be made on the their machines though. While perfectly legal to do, no business owner wants grief or drama, especially from the government.

[phaux]

I'm sure some have seen this video, but for those who haven't:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAdnZ6xsWtU[/ame]

It's a guy doing essentially what GAP is planning to do. It's a long and rather boring video but is neat in that it shows one being made in what I can only assume is his garage or workshop.

[CJ]

I've made some simple cnc machines before running Mach3 and had some great results, but I'm not sure how well I could keep accuracy on a forged blank. The stage and resolution would be really important, and I hope you have a whole lot of spare blanks to get it right, haha. You'd have to start your first pass, then move the receiver, and start your second, etc. I'm sure it could be done but it wouldn't be easy. I personally would just cut one from a block of billet aluminum and start from scratch instead of using a blank. From my own experience, if you're not planning on getting your manufacturer license, it sure and the hell isn't worth the money. But, if it isn't your machines I'd definitely do it.

[KBScobravert]

I'm sure some have seen this video, but for those who haven't:

Thanks. I watched his first and second videos.

[Musbrad2]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/tls/3511318869.html

I don't know much about Cnc work, would this be all you'd need other than the proper software? If so here's a good start.

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My work is getting 3 new machines this year a vertical and horizontal haas cnc mills and a new cnc lathe. I am so pumped to make personal shit with them. I built a cnc router a while back that I had $2200 in and sold for near 5k. Been kicking myself in the ass ever since. I am going to do another this year. That machine that Musbrad2 linked is a toy and is not suitable for much. I still have all the software to design parts, do the cam, and run the machine. I love mach3 for DIY machines.