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  • Legacy by William Petty (2 min vid)

    Why I harp on you guys to get out there and train instead of shooting from a bench all day. When the call to action comes, will you be ready?



  • #2
    Agreed. The day I had the chance to have an indoor range all to myself, turn out every light, and shoot in pitch-black with nothing but my pistol, my Surefire, and an approaching target... that's when I really realized how important it is to do more than bench shoot.
    Now, even my wife knows (and loves that she knows) that when she's shooting a 15 rd pistol mag, she needs to drop/reload after shot 14 so there's no need to rack the slide on a reload. She's loves practicing drawing from a seated position and shooting across her body, shooting while moving, off-hand shooting, etc.

    A couple weeks ago on my in-laws' land (when only my wife and her mom were there) there was a SAR operation going on, but before anyone knew what was happening they heard voices calling out in the woods. MIL goes wandering off to "check it out" with nothing in hand - just to 'look' while my wife had the forethought to grab a gun and extra mag, lock up the house, and a radio to reach a neighbor. Then they come across a man walking across a clearing on the land. MIL, still no idea what's happening yet, doesn't even announce herself, and goes strolling out to the guy. My wife was so pissed at her mom for how she handled all of it. No regard for personal safety, no thought about "what if that guy means us harm." No situational awareness, no prep, etc. Ridiculous.
    (Guy was volunteer FD, SAR was a success, they found the kid a couple miles away)



    I'm tempted to throw down the cash to go to one of Tim Kennedy's courses

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    • #3
      I was supposed to go to ECQC (Extreme Close Quarters Concepts) in Nov but this shoulder surgery stopped that. Everyone that's been loves it... get a lot of hands on training covering entangled gun fighting. Because let's be real, virtually all gun fights occur within close proximity to our opponent. There's tons of solid training in the area, you just gotta set some time and money to do it.

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      • #4
        If you need to rack the slide to chamber a new mag, get a new pistol. Any pistol that can't function 100% all the time is not a good choice for self defense. Yes learn to clear all faults and jams, but if you experience them for real get a different pistol immediately.

        I know what all the "tac ops" experts teach and say now about tactical reloading and manually racking the slide etc. Fact is reloading and the slide release is faster and if your pistol can't do it, replace it. This is the primary reason I sell any pistol. I don't keep safe queens.

        I may look retarded with my man bag or murse but I have many important tools in there in case the need ever arises.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
          If you need to rack the slide to chamber a new mag, get a new pistol. Any pistol that can't function 100% all the time is not a good choice for self defense. Yes learn to clear all faults and jams, but if you experience them for real get a different pistol immediately.
          Read what he wrote again. This is true of every pistol pretty much. Leave one in the pipe, drop mag, load a new mag.
          WRX

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          • #6
            To add to the whole practicing of dynamic or moving and shooting I'll add to vet your instructors before taking a class.

            Prime example is local to me. Guy has "classes/courses" that he and his goon squad teach. Head goon claims a lengthy background of types of people he's trained. When in reality he took a classes back in the day with magpul when costa and haley were there. Know I'm not saying you have to be a ex special black ops seal beret cia operative to teach but just make sure the instructor is vetted and respected in their curriculum of expertise.
            "It's another burrito, it's a cold Lone Star in my hand!"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mustang_revival View Post
              Read what he wrote again. This is true of every pistol pretty much. Leave one in the pipe, drop mag, load a new mag.
              I know what he wrote and it's bs too like a lot of stuff taught by tacperts. Are you counting rounds or fighting for your life? Sure if there is a lull and you have a chance to tax reload go for it. But teaching to reload on mag capacity -1 is horseshit.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
                I know what he wrote and it's bs too like a lot of stuff taught by tacperts. Are you counting rounds or fighting for your life? Sure if there is a lull and you have a chance to tax reload go for it. But teaching to reload on mag capacity -1 is horseshit.
                Lull in the gunfight and you have good cover, might be a good time for a tac reload. IMO, trying to think and remember how many rds you've shot isn't very practical. Shooting with you and a bud on the line isn't really putting you under the stress. Go take a 2-day class that blows through 800 rds and you'll be forgetting about counting rds after about 5 reps.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GE View Post
                  Lull in the gunfight and you have good cover, might be a good time for a tac reload. IMO, trying to think and remember how many rds you've shot isn't very practical. Shooting with you and a bud on the line isn't really putting you under the stress. Go take a 2-day class that blows through 800 rds and you'll be forgetting about counting rds after about 5 reps.
                  I'm not advocating either way. My wife was taught that and enjoys it. I'm not sure I care either way.

                  I get it... "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson


                  But also: "Counting your rounds takes the pressure off of your mind that you're killing somebody." - Marcus Luttrell

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                  • #10
                    I agree. Train and practice all you can. I honestly wish I had more time and rounds to reactive. With things headed the way they my hobby may well turn into a needed life saving skill. I wish I knew of a range set up to run real actual drills at close by. They are rare.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
                      I agree. Train and practice all you can. I honestly wish I had more time and rounds to reactive. With things headed the way they my hobby may well turn into a needed life saving skill. I wish I knew of a range set up to run real actual drills at close by. They are rare.
                      I'd love to have a 180 degree range with moving targets. That would be good. Shooting static paper is for weekend warriors

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AnthonyS View Post
                        I agree. Train and practice all you can. I honestly wish I had more time and rounds to reactive. With things headed the way they my hobby may well turn into a needed life saving skill. I wish I knew of a range set up to run real actual drills at close by. They are rare.
                        Whereabouts are you?

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                        • #13
                          Hi five area in Dallas..... right in the middle of the shit if civil unrest becomes a reality.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IHaveAMustang View Post
                            I'd love to have a 180 degree range with moving targets. That would be good. Shooting static paper is for weekend warriors
                            Paper has its place in basic marksmanship but yes something more involved would be way better.

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                            • #15
                              I have thought about going to one of Kennedy's classes as well since they cover so much (hand to hand, pistol, first aid) and I have never been taught by anyone who has done it before in real life.

                              Getting used to counting your rounds helps more with the psychology of dehumanizing the person you are shooting, instead of shooting a person you are now counting rounds and shooting a target. Add shooting human shaped targets and you have some of the main steps that the military used to go from 10-15% shoot to kill in WW2 to almost 98% in Iraq. Other things were implemented along the way but these are things civilians can easily do.

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