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Really they just need to open up NICS for the public and call it a day.
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Bad idea. You would then give people not allowed to have guns the ability to manipulate their information to see if they can get approved. Once they find a combo that works they will run with it or just get the fake DLs that the wet backs use and get in line at an FFL like the rest of us once they are sure that they have something that will not get kicked back.Originally posted by David View PostMagnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.Comment
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That argument is all the same for dealer shopping, so...Originally posted by svo855 View PostComment
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Not even close. At a dealer you are dealing with a person and a piece of paper got signed that will get you 60 months in the pen and a 250k fine for signing it if you told any lies. With a call in they can do what they want with ZERO potential consequences and no witness.Originally posted by David View PostMagnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.Comment
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So how does a dealer know what's real and what's fake if someone is shopping an ID between the a private individual or a dealer? 60months means shit when you're shopping IDs. The crime is already being committed whether your giving false info to a person or a dealer.Originally posted by svo855 View PostComment
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"Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul HarveyComment
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i am not an ffl.Although Obama did not set a threshold number of sales to define who should be a licensed dealer, the White House noted that the “quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators.” The administration noted that “even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is ‘engaged in the business.’ For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.” An Associated Press story said those other factors include business indicators such as “selling weapons in their original packaging and for a profit.”
I usually keep the original boxes and usually include them if I sell something, and I have sold for a profit before.
I really don't agree with the extreme push along with a new agency / task force to witch hunt a single aspect of a law that was already in existence and enforced by afederal agency.Comment
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I get the joke, by it sure had a Freudian slip quality.He dismissed the notion that he was behind a plot to take away everybody's guns "so we can impose martial law" as "a conspiracy." And he tried to dispel it by pointing out that he lacked the time in office to take away the nation's 350 million firearms.
"I'm only going to be here for another year," he said.
So if he is saying most criminals get guns legally rather than illegally, how would more background checks help?He then disputed the notion that most criminals got guns illegally or through personal connections, making background checks -- a major focus on his policy initiative on guns -- of little utility.Last edited by Jimbo; 01-09-2016, 12:41 PM.Comment
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This is where the government taking over healthcare comes into play. They will integrate your medical history with the background checks. Probably start to link certain prescription drugs too. Just my tinfoil hat opinion.Originally posted by Jimbo View Post
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No, that's exactly what they are doing. Why do you think the Grand Pubah wants Social Security in the NICS loop? Oh, you've drawn SS disability for a mental condition? No guns for you!Originally posted by KBScobravert View Post"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."Comment
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I'm afraid it will go much deeper as they look at things like anyone who has seen a therapist or is undergoing treatment by a psychologist or psychiatrist.Originally posted by KBScobravert View Post
Things like ADD/ADHD and taking adderall could keep you from owning a gun, etc.
Just my thoughts on how far down the rabbit hole things could goComment
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"oh, you get VA disability for PTSD? No guns for you"Originally posted by helosailor View Post
they are that dirtyFuck you. We're going to Costco.Comment
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"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."Comment
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[liberal] no one is coming to take your guns [/liberal]Originally posted by helosailor View Post
that is the problem, semantics. Who are they going to take them from if not from the "your" they are speaking to. How about get them to say "no one is taking anyone's guns" and then hold them to it.
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