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Fawk! How can either party think they were in the right?
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See this is exactly what's wrong. One person says I'm going to kick your ass and the other shoots. -
Bad shoot..."Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson, 1776Comment
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Damn. Called him the aggressor and he's the one that got followed.DE OPPRESSO LIBER
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Yeah, I don't know about this. If someone follows me home, bad things are going to happen to that person.
That said, I would NEVER go home if someone was following me for obvious reasons. I'd call 911 and wait for them to catch up to us and pull everyone over.Ford
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Yea I agree they both handled it poorly, but calling the shooter the aggressor is gray to me.Originally posted by quikag View Post
And I agree entirely, dont follow someone home and not expect them to flip.DE OPPRESSO LIBER
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Made a post earlier, but fouled it up somehow.... X2 on this is basically what I said.Originally posted by HarrisonTX View Post
Only iffy area to me is if the other guy walked on his property or not. Still, once you follow someone to their house - it's a new game at that point. Lawful or not.Originally posted by MR EDDComment
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Geeezzz You all are still being bitches I mean he followed me oh my gosh this is my house Im gonna shoot him now. Man you would be totally amazed at what going in and getting some tea and crumpets and inviting the guy over to discuss the matter at hand could do.Comment
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Actually I'm just fucking around I guess the tea and crumpets didn't get that across but thanks.Originally posted by Craizie View PostComment
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Ya so many things went wrong especially considering both parties involved (IMO) were the aggressors. You don't follow someone home. You don't say the things he said to the 911 operator. You don't shoot someone in the back.
And I don't care about Castle Doctrine or not (or whatever they call it in Florida), if your life is not in imminent danger and you have the chance to retreat, do it. Sure Gonzales got out of the car and threatened to kick his ass. But Doyle could have easily had his gun out (not pointed at him) and backed up into his house. Just my opinion but it's not worth all the legal and financial implications of what's going to go down.Comment
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Gonzales was stupid for following. His wife should have given 911 the plate numbers then they should have disengaged.
The article isn't clear on how this all got started so I'm not throwing Doyle under the bus yet. However it is clear to me that both parties were out of control. Also, there is an article linked to the one posted above that has this comment:
If that is true, Doyle is done. Either way, everyone loses here because no one acted like an adult.A witness told deputies they saw Gonzalez backing away when Doyle pulled the gun, according to WTSP.Comment
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..Fuck you. We're going to Costco.Comment
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This is pretty much what it all boils down to, and keeping a calm mind will help decide when it's required to shoot someone.Originally posted by Jose View Post
Legal/Not legal, I'll understand a shoot sometimes. In this case, the details are very fuzzy but I suspect that Doyle is going to lose due to those details and spend the rest of his years in prison. Even if he gets a lenient sentence, he is going to spend a lot of money getting there.
The things he said to the 911 operator put him on the losing end already.Originally posted by MR EDDComment
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If Gonzales had stayed aggressive and was coming at him, there wouldn't be a murder charge. If he was indeed backing away, as any sane person would when staring down the barrel of a gun, then Doyle needs to rot in prison.Originally posted by Sgt Beavis View PostComment
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