I just made a life or death decision.

[Denny]

Heavy handed bullshit. More tickets, more arrests, more stop people who are just walking down the street because "that's suspicious". The exact things that make people hate cops.

I'm with you. I couldn't put up with the crap the PD has to deal with today, both internally and from everyone else.

[VaderTT]

It was SVO, he was only a state trooper for like 37 years though.

[ELVIS]

I like this kingjason guy.

Ps. Fuck brad and dAnny

God bless.

[kingjason]

Heavy handed bullshit. More tickets, more arrests, more stop people who are just walking down the street because "that's suspicious". The exact things that make people hate cops.

Yeah I refuse to do that. Honestly, times are changing and city management needs to get on board. Like I said in another thread. It's usually the city counsel and managers hammering the Chief. People really don't get that. Don't get me wrong, I am sure there are plenty if chiefs out there that are of the numbers mindset, just not many I have worked with. Contacts yes, breaking it off in your community, no.

[Denny]

I like this kingjason guy.

Ps. Fuck brad and dAnny

God bless.

Can I go first?

[Denny]

Yeah I refuse to do that. Honestly, times are changing and city management needs to get on board. Like I said in another thread. It's usually the city counsel and managers hammering the Chief. People really don't get that. Don't get me wrong, I am sure there are plenty if chiefs out there that are of the numbers mindset, just not many I have worked with. Contacts yes, breaking it off in your community, no.

Some think that they are synonymous.

[kingjason]

Some think that they are synonymous.

It's because they had their ass whipped in high school every day. Writing tickets affects my paycheck zero. Breaking it off in some one, just because you can, could literally ruin some ones life. Start off with a handful of tickets, get arrested because you can't pay them, car gets impounded, you lose your job, lose you house, etc etc. Big picture is what some guys miss. If I stop you because you are speeding and tell you to slow down I have done my job. If I can't cut you break I don't write you. Just speeding, slow down, have a nice day. I will stop for speed and then write for whatever else. Everybody wins!

[BMCSean]

I listened to a Tom Segura bit about Steven Seagal that made me have an epiphany, SVO is like the Steven Seagal of DFWM! He has done everything, is an expert in everything, and everything he says seems like he just made it up.

[VaderTT]

I listened to a Tom Segura bit about Steven Seagal that made me have an epiphany, SVO is like the Steven Seagal of DFWM! He has done everything, is an expert in everything, and everything he says seems like he just made it up.

Ya know they call a helicopter a skippy.

[BMCSean]

Ya know they call a helicopter a skippy.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Writing tickets affects my paycheck zero.

So how does the city qualify that your doing your job, and qualify raises? I thought most cities had a performance metric that is partially based on the average of tickets written by the department versus individual officer?

[svauto-erotic855]

Oh the more serious note, didn't we have a story like that here? Guy that got sprayed ended up becoming a state trooper later on in life. Said the gas scared him straight. Can't remember who posted it though.

Dallas cop. He followed me from a 7-11 to my post office and talked to me in there. Told me that he had nightmares about my face for years afterwards and thanked me. It is one of the most surreal encounters of my life.

[LANTIRN]

Dallas cop. He followed me from a 7-11 to my post office and talked to me in there. Told me that he had nightmares about my face for years afterwards and thanked me. It is one of the most surreal encounters of my life.

Of course. Who else would it have been?

[BMCSean]

93LXHORSE? He tells great stories.

[kingjason]

So how does the city qualify that your doing your job, and qualify raises? I thought most cities had a performance metric that is partially based on the average of tickets written by the department versus individual officer?

Low crime rate, contacts (traffic stops/suspicious people/business checks), reports, response times, etc. Why would tickets being the measuring stick? How about a shift never getting hit with BMV's, Burglaries, ETC. You think Highland Park wants their guys to go break it off on the city? Somewhere down the road tickets became a source of revenue vs a minor corrective action , and then people got greedy. Just like with surcharges. Really that is double dipping in my book. Citys are not supposed to included citation revenue in their yearly budget over a certain percentage, yet I have sure heard them scream in the past when "numbers where down".