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  • Sig arm brace might now become an sbr

    The ATF at its finest logic.

    The AR pistol market got a huge shot in the arm when SIG released their arm brace. And the ATF had originally opined that shouldering the arm brace was beyond their control--an opinion that sold thousands of arm braces. Short barreled rifles became instantly irrelevant. But now, the ATF is singing a different tune, and offering a very different opinion. Read on...



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    With that logic, firing a rifle without it against your shoulder means it's a pistol.
    Good work guys. Once again, our tax dollars are hard at work.
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    • #3
      Shenanigans
      Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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      • #4
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        • #5
          Jesus christ. Why is there a fucking NFA in the first place, if all of these moronic bureaucrats are going to change their opinions every ten minutes?
          ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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          • #6
            Ehh, it was fugly anyway.

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            • #7
              Am I missing something? Aren't any shotgun under 18 inch barrel considered a sbr?

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              • #8
                Curious how many bureaucrats in the ATF even shoot?
                "Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey

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                • #9
                  Are there any shotguns that are manufactured as "pistol"?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by David View Post
                    Are there any shotguns that are manufactured as "pistol"?
                    Any smooth bore pistol would have to be an AOW, only exception is the FP-45 as it's a C&R and maybe some of the very old revolvers are exempted. The 'Judge' and other like revolvers all have rifling.

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                    • #11
                      Im glad, I think those things are fucking stupid.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by matts5.0 View Post
                        Im glad, I think those things are fucking stupid.
                        I wanted to say that originally but since I don't agree with nfa shit in general I dont condone them regulating anything.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by inline 6 View Post
                          I wanted to say that originally but since I don't agree with nfa shit in general I dont condone them regulating anything.
                          Same, I'm only angry because they are regulating something that was previously ok, but now somehow it is not. Bureaucratic magic!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IHaveAMustang View Post
                            Same, I'm only angry because they are regulating something that was previously ok, but now somehow it is not. Bureaucratic magic!
                            I am not sure I follow your logic. The weapon in question was a short barrel shotgun, thus an AOW. Adding a SIG brace and foregrip does not magically make it non-AOW.

                            The ATF ruling implies that the SIG brace is NOT a stock and can't be used for one for the purpose of making a NFA item a non-NFA item.
                            Last edited by S_K; 11-21-2014, 01:24 PM. Reason: spelling

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by phaux View Post
                              Any smooth bore pistol would have to be an AOW, only exception is the FP-45 as it's a C&R and maybe some of the very old revolvers are exempted. The 'Judge' and other like revolvers all have rifling.
                              This doesn't account for the stupid law California has on the "Judge" its insane. They classify it as a shotgun and not legal because of the short barrel.

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