So the Feds are going back to 9mm?

[GhostTX]

I chose .40 as the "compromise". Energy delivery of .45, but capacity of 9mm. Plus, the expanded rounds are larger than 9mm. I'm of the "bigger holes" theory.

[Sean88gt]

So does this mean another shortage of 9mm when the fbi orders 300 billion rounds?

Sounds about right.

[AnthonyS]

I chose .40 as the "compromise". Energy delivery of .45, but capacity of 9mm. Plus, the expanded rounds are larger than 9mm. I'm of the "bigger holes" theory.

I really want to agree on all of this, but then I see the guys at the range with 40s they just can't control all too often. I'm not sure I could control one either. This is probably the reason some LE are switching back to 9mm.

With a 1911, I shoot smooth and straight and am back on target faster. With my poly 9s, I do okay too, but never as good as a 1911. I think that's the big bonus of 45 ACP, the delivery system is typically a nice steel frame long barrel 1911 with a generous sight radius. Even after 100+ years the design still has a lot to offer.

[IHaveAMustang]

For some reason I enjoy shooting .40 more than 9mm or .45

Especially in my Witness. Maybe because it is full metal framed vs combat tupperware, I can just keep it on target really well.

Edit: I like shooting my 1911's too, but the 7 - 8 rounds kills me. I like double digit round counts.

[dee]

Edit: I like shooting my 1911's too, but the 7 - 8 rounds kills me. I like double digit round counts.

STI or infinity can solve your problem.

[YALE]

Also, Sig makes a single action only P226 now.

[AnthonyS]

For some reason I enjoy shooting .40 more than 9mm or .45

Especially in my Witness. Maybe because it is full metal framed vs combat tupperware, I can just keep it on target really well.

Edit: I like shooting my 1911's too, but the 7 - 8 rounds kills me. I like double digit round counts.

I agree on the all metal frames. My wife fell in love with the CZ75 for the same reason. It shoots very nice. The Witness is essentially the same gun with a lot more options.

[Probie]

Also, Sig makes a single action only P226 now.

Goddamnit. Why did you have to tell me that.

[Probie]

I really want to agree on all of this, but then I see the guys at the range with 40s they just can't control all too often. I'm not sure I could control one either. This is probably the reason some LE are switching back to 9mm.

With a 1911, I shoot smooth and straight and am back on target faster. With my poly 9s, I do okay too, but never as good as a 1911. I think that's the big bonus of 45 ACP, the delivery system is typically a nice steel frame long barrel 1911 with a generous sight radius. Even after 100+ years the design still has a lot to offer.

I wouldn't consider the delivery system a plus for the .45. Have you ever shot a 1911 in 9mm? Smooth like butta with less recoil. The 1911 is a great in a few ways, mainly the trigger. I see a lot of people who say "I only shoot 1911's because they are the best, blah blah blah" but when you stick a DA gun or even a striker fired gun in their hand they can't shoot for shit. Why? Because the trigger is so short and awesome on the 1911 it allows them the opportunity to cover up their shitty trigger pull.


I'm not saying you are doing this. Just an observation.

[Cobraman]

Its probably a good idea to go 9mm- no need to carry a taser anymore- you've got less than lethal covered.

[Moose242]

Are 10mm kurz guys allowed to make jabs like that?

[Cobraman]

Lol just a stab at probie

[Chili]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems that comparing recoil / target re-acquisition of any 1911 to any polymer gun is apples to oranges. Mainly due to the overall weight and the weight balance of the gun.

For example, my dad has an old single shot, break action shotgun that weighs next to nothing. That fucker kicks like a sonofabitch. If I were to compare my heavy-ass Mossberg 500 with the same shells, the Mossberg may as well be a .22.

Is the issue really associated with the round (.40 vs 9mm), or with the weight / balance of the pistol?

[ram57ta]

I prefer shooting my M&P Shield 40 over my Kel-Tec PF9 any day.

[CJ]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems that comparing recoil / target re-acquisition of any 1911 to any polymer gun is apples to oranges. Mainly due to the overall weight and the weight balance of the gun.

For example, my dad has an old single shot, break action shotgun that weighs next to nothing. That fucker kicks like a sonofabitch. If I were to compare my heavy-ass Mossberg 500 with the same shells, the Mossberg may as well be a .22.

Is the issue really associated with the round (.40 vs 9mm), or with the weight / balance of the pistol?

It's both. I find glock 9mm's extremely uncomfortable to shoot. Polymer guns by and large and extermely imbalanced, which magnifies recoil.