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Originally posted by dcs13 View PostHOLY EFF I was stupid. I meant I would pay to see a "fight" not make up sex...I've had too much to drink and failed to read that.. forgive me please.."If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford
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Originally posted by soap View PostI'll stick to concealed carry. I like to keep the element of surprise.Originally posted by Theodore RooseveltIt is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming...
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NRA weighs in. Well well well.
NRA Calls Texas Open Carry Protests "Downright Weird" and "Just Not Neighborly"
Open Carry Texas and its most active local offshoot, Open Carry Tarrant County, have succeeded marvelously in their quest to mercilessly troll gun-control advocates. Whether they've made any progress toward their stated aim of legalizing openly carried handguns in Texas, however, is another matter.
The National Rifle Association, for one, thinks it may be counterproductive. In a blog post, NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, the most powerful pro-gun group in America, wrote that demonstrating with assault rifles in Chipotle and Home Depot parking lots may be hurting the push for expanded Second Amendment rights.
Now we love AR-15s and AKs as much as anybody, and we know that these sorts of semiautomatic carbines are among the most popular, fastest selling firearms in America today. Texas, independent-minded and liberty-loving place that it is, doesn't ban the carrying of loaded long guns in public, nor does it require a permit for this activity. Yet some so-called firearm advocates seem determined to change this.
Recently, demonstrators have been showing up in various public places, including coffee shops and fast food restaurants, openly toting a variety of tactical long guns. Unlicensed open carry of handguns is legal in about half the U.S. states, and it is relatively common and uncontroversial in some places.
Yet while unlicensed open carry of long guns is also typically legal in most places, it is a rare sight to see someone sidle up next to you in line for lunch with a 7.62 rifle slung across his chest, much less a whole gaggle of folks descending on the same public venue with similar arms.
Let's not mince words, not only is it rare, it's downright weird and certainly not a practical way to go normally about your business while being prepared to defend yourself. To those who are not acquainted with the dubious practice of using public displays of firearms as a means to draw attention to oneself or one's cause, it can be downright scary. It makes folks who might normally be perfectly open-minded about firearms feel uncomfortable and question the motives of pro-gun advocates.
As a result of these hijinx, two popular fast food outlets have recently requested patrons to keep guns off the premises (more information can be found here and here). In other words, the freedom and goodwill these businesses had previously extended to gun owners has been curtailed because of the actions of an attention-hungry few who thought only of themselves and not of those who might be affected by their behavior. To state the obvious, that's counterproductive for the gun owning community.
More to the point, it's just not neighborly, which is out of character for the big-hearted residents of Texas. Using guns merely to draw attention to yourself in public not only defies common sense, it shows a lack of consideration and manners. That's not the Texas way. And that's certainly not the NRA way.
Open Carry Texas responded with a bitter rebuttal, accusing the NRA of being a weak-kneed defender of the gun-phobic status quo:
The NRA has lost its relevance and sided with #guncontrolextremists and their lapdog media. No one in NRA leadership has ever been to an OCT event, but feels competent to speak out against them. Keep in mind, the NRA has done nothing in Texas to get open carry passed to this point and continues to fight it in our state. After all, they make money through licensing schemes of our rights, so unlicensed open carry hurts their bottom line.
This claim isn't exactly true. Two months ago the NRA's main Texas lobbyist spoke before the state Senate's Rural Affairs & Homeland Security Committee as it debated whether to ease gun laws in Texas. Matter of fact, she addressed the committee immediately before Open Carry Texas founder CJ Grisham took the podium.
In her testimony, she made the NRA's position on openly carried handguns abundantly clear:
"I think everybody should have that right."
Open Carry Texas and its most active local offshoot, Open Carry Tarrant County, have succeeded marvelously in their quest to mercilessly troll gun-control advocates. Whether they've made any progress toward their stated aim of legalizing openly carried handguns in Texas, however, is another matter. The National Rifle Association, for one,...
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Go to Home Depot and round the isle pushing your kid in the stroller looking for that next item to fix a project with. Run into one of these douchebags with their SKS/AR/AK at the low ready or with even just their hand on the grip and tell me that you are not going to think about removing concealment, unholstering and pushing out into their fucking face.
When they say there is a time and a place to carry a gun in the open insert pretty much everywhere and you outside of normal behavior. It is ABNORMAL behavior to walk around these places with a slung weapon. That is what most people see right before an active shooter.
I would be less angry if they had them across their backs slung muzzle down. But no, they want to piss off everyone they see so they can get the attention they think 'their cause' deserves. I have to say, if a CCW holder shot one in the chest at a place I was at, I might just walk around them and go about my business there. "there, is that attention enough for you?"Fuck you. We're going to Costco.
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Originally posted by ELVIS View Postthe guy with the fedora, i wanna choke him out with the sling.
god bless."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler
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Originally posted by kbscobravert View PostGo to Home Depot and round the isle pushing your kid in the stroller looking for that next item to fix a project with. Run into one of these douchebags with their SKS/AR/AK at the low ready or with even just their hand on the grip and tell me that you are not going to think about removing concealment, unholstering and pushing out into their fucking face.
When they say there is a time and a place to carry a gun in the open insert pretty much everywhere and you outside of normal behavior. It is ABNORMAL behavior to walk around these places with a slung weapon. That is what most people see right before an active shooter.
I would be less angry if they had them across their backs slung muzzle down. But no, they want to piss off everyone they see so they can get the attention they think 'their cause' deserves.
IMO Pistol or rifle in hand should both be reserved for a situation when use is expected."A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."
-Gerald Ford/Thomas Jefferson
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Originally posted by Trip McNeely View PostI don't know if these tards are really this fucking stupid, or if they are on some sort of sneaky campaign to tarnish and take down gun rights by these means. It makes me wonder.
Saw something on the news about them being offended by the NRA and the demanded a retraction or they would tear up their nra membership cards. None of which accomplishes their goal.
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Now they are walking around with black powder rifles either made prior to 1899, or replicas or curios of rifles made prior to 1899 due to the loophole:
(3) "Firearm" means any device designed, made, or adapted to expel a projectile through a barrel by using the energy generated by an explosion or burning substance or any device readily convertible to that use. Firearm does not include a firearm that may have, as an integral part, a folding knife blade or other characteristics of weapons made illegal by this chapter and that is:
(A) an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899; or
(B) a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899, but only if the replica does not use rim fire or center fire ammunition.
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostNow they are walking around with black powder rifles either made prior to 1899, or replicas or curios of rifles made prior to 1899 due to the loophole:
(3) "Firearm" means any device designed, made, or adapted to expel a projectile through a barrel by using the energy generated by an explosion or burning substance or any device readily convertible to that use. Firearm does not include a firearm that may have, as an integral part, a folding knife blade or other characteristics of weapons made illegal by this chapter and that is:
(A) an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899; or
(B) a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899, but only if the replica does not use rim fire or center fire ammunition.
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