FN Scar 16s or 17s

[CJ]

Yeah, I'd switch those out myself.

[Machx2]

I think it looks badass with the light colored controls. Sweet rifle.

Since big battle rifles are being discussed. Has anyone played with an Ohio Ordinance BAR? I like the idea of 30-06 brass littering the ground.

It is ok. I am just not a flashy guy. Not big on the grey color. I like fde and dark greens, things that might help a little with camo.

[TeeShock]

I think it looks badass with the light colored controls. Sweet rifle.

Since big battle rifles are being discussed. Has anyone played with an Ohio Ordinance BAR? I like the idea of 30-06 brass littering the ground.

[KBScobravert]

Change to black and you look to be set to go.

[likeitfast55]

Very nice. While it is a tad bulky, the lightweight aspect makes up for it. IMHO

[Machx2]

Well I took the plunge on a 17. Not sure what to think about the pistol grip and forearm. Probably going to go back to all black and get a vertical grip. Right now I just threw on my aimpoint comp m4 site on it. Hope to take this thing out this week!

[Pokulski-Blatz]

It's just a shame they are so large.

I can see this being a problem for me, but you make a M4 look like a squirt gun.

[CJ]

yep, definitely light guns. It's just a shame they are so large. It makes you appreciate just how minimalist the AR design is.

[likeitfast55]

Which would you buy. I am torn between the two. So I am asking for your help. I know some of you have to own some of them. How do you like it?

Without question a 17s for me. 308, minimal recoil, very accurate. Very light weapon with a lot of firepower.

[AnthonyS]

I ended up with an M1A for my 308 fun. It's probably because I did shoot the M14 in the Navy. I have ARs too. The 223 platforms are much lighter. I'm glad I built a 16" AR in 6.8 spc. I think it's a great compromise between light and firepower. It is what I will grab if the SHTF and I have to go go go. I'm going to put a 4X32 Trijicon ACOG on it soon and be happy with it if I really need something for defense.

The wife is getting a 16" 223 AR with an ACOG.

308 rifles are big and heavy, but they are a lot of fun to shoot.

[Moose242]

Tempt me!

Whatcha lookin for?

[Pokulski-Blatz]

Trade it to me!

Tempt me!

[Moose242]

Should be 21". I would measure it but it is buried under a pile of guns. Trying to get my gun room ready for a new safe.

Trade it to me!

[Pokulski-Blatz]

The thing about .308 rifles is the powder is so slow burning you start experiencing unacceptable velocity losses at 16" I think last time I did the math, at 12" a .300blk has the same power as a .308. And the most you'll get from cutting a barrel down 4" or so is a few ounces (and tinnitus). What length is your barrel?

Should be 21". I would measure it but it is buried under a pile of guns. Trying to get my gun room ready for a new safe.

[CJ]

Translation - shit general issue weapon.

I really want to drag this FAL out to the range now that I have ammo for it. Maybe I will fall in love with it and have the barrel brought down to a reasonable length.

The thing about .308 rifles is the powder is so slow burning you start experiencing unacceptable velocity losses at 16" I think last time I did the math, at 12" a .300blk has the same power as a .308. And the most you'll get from cutting a barrel down 4" or so is a few ounces (and tinnitus). What length is your barrel?