The excrement just hit the fan, you have 5 minutes to grab your things and gtfo

[inline 6]

When shit hits the fan, everything we have learned about society can be thrown out the window. The lowest in people will come out when there are no laws or rules to follow, especially if you have something they want/need. It then becomes a game of survival and how far you're willing to go to stay alive.

If I'm approached by a stranger, they will get a verbal warning that I'm armed and that I will do whatever I need to in order to ensure my survival and of those with me, even if that means killing someone. They will then be given the opportunity to state their business and their intentions. Given the opportunity to help, I'll provide what I can without compromising my safety or that of anyone I'm with. It will be agreed upon that once they're helped, they will be moving on their way, and they will not look back. If they choose to fight leaving, they will be viewed as a threat and whatever action needed will be taken to remove them as a threat. Like I said, it's a game of survival, and trust isn't something that will be easily earned.

Fair enough.

For everyone else.... The next time anyone decides to start another one of these threads just call it "so there is a costco"

[BigTex71]

I don't think a costco would be defensible for very long. At least not without a heavy arsenal and a couple of dozen committed defenders. A costco is only going to be built near a densely populated area. You might scare off the early scavengers or even kill some. But when their food runs out, thousands upon thousands of starving people will overtake it.

Best bet would be to hit the costco at zero hour and in force with a large vehicle. Load it up and evacuate to your long term defensible location.

[YALE]

I think, "Is Chuck there?" and, "CHOOO! CHOOO!" need to be the challenge phrases in this post-apocalypse.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

We need a Dfwm sign/ countersign.
So we know who to shoot first.

Err I mean who not to shoot

At one time it was 'post tits or get the fuck out'

[Gtracer]

At one time it was 'post tits or get the fuck out'

Secondary verification

[John -- '02 HAWK]

Costco has tons of shit

There is a reason I mentioned burning down wlamart, sams, costco, etc

everyone thinks thats a good idea, so every tom, dick and harry will be saying once we/they make it there all will be good. Which isnt true, if the just in time shipments dont arrive those warehouse stores (and grocery stores) will run out of food stuffs in the first week. Also the building construction methods makes them poor choices as fortified locations.

[John -- '02 HAWK]

I'm constantly looking for ways to improve my pack and things to add to my pack that may be of use, when I came across this pack frame. And what a better way to advertise a pack frame than with a picture of a guy carrying a moose head.

I would be scared some drunken redneck would take a shot if they saw that rack wandering around backwoods, especially in a shtf situation

[Probie]

There is a reason I mentioned burning down wlamart, sams, costco, etc

everyone thinks thats a good idea, so every tom, dick and harry will be saying once we/they make it there all will be good. Which isnt true, if the just in time shipments dont arrive those warehouse stores (and grocery stores) will run out of food stuffs in the first week. Also the building construction methods makes them poor choices as fortified locations.

So are you saying we need to be hitting food trucks F&F style?

[Cobraman]

So are you saying we need to be hitting food trucks F&F style?

They won't be running

[Probie]

They won't be running

Before shtf duh.


We can raid Stephen's garage. He'll probably be out of town

[Probie]

I'm gonna find out where the guy who just walked into my work lives. And I'm gonna go steal his shit when it goes down.

First off he's about a foot shorter and 50lbs heavier.

Walked into a burger joint wearing

Brand new tan 5.11 pants.
Extremely clean tan Oakley boots.
5.11 outer shell jacket (black)
Condor softshell jacket (black)
Black condor operator Velcro patch hat


HE WALKED IN WEARING A TAN SHEMAGH AND MECHANIX GLOVES


Neckbeard level +100000000000

OAF NATION

[GhostTX]

I'm gonna find out where the guy who just walked into my work lives. And I'm gonna go steal his shit when it goes down.

First off he's about a foot shorter and 50lbs heavier.

Walked into a burger joint wearing

Brand new tan 5.11 pants.
Extremely clean tan Oakley boots.
5.11 outer shell jacket (black)
Condor softshell jacket (black)
Black condor operator Velcro patch hat


HE WALKED IN WEARING A TAN SHEMAGH AND MECHANIX GLOVES


Neckbeard level +100000000000

OAF NATION

LOL...wow...Tacticool lvl 11.

[motoman]

I'm gonna find out where the guy who just walked into my work lives. And I'm gonna go steal his shit when it goes down.

First off he's about a foot shorter and 50lbs heavier.

Walked into a burger joint wearing

Brand new tan 5.11 pants.
Extremely clean tan Oakley boots.
5.11 outer shell jacket (black)
Condor softshell jacket (black)
Black condor operator Velcro patch hat


HE WALKED IN WEARING A TAN SHEMAGH AND MECHANIX GLOVES


Neckbeard level +100000000000

OAF NATION

shut the fuck up, all I wanted was a burger!!!

[helosailor]

shut the fuck up, all I wanted was a burger with a shitload of jalapenos and mustard...cuz that's how I roll, HARDCORE!!!111

[95ragtop]

Soap,

I saw you have a suture kit in your bag. I would be wary of suturing any cuts unless you have a bunch of clean/sterile water that you can irrigate the wound with otherwise you're asking for an infection. I would stop bleeding and let it close by itself. Another option is sterie strips instead of a suture kit.

I saw people carried a bunch of stuff that uses batteries. I have a Goal Zero (solar) kit that can charge AA's or usb devices and try to use electronics that use AA's.

What I am going to build is a kit that I can leave in each of my cars to make it home, max 3 days. When packing a kit like this weight is the enemy, you guys that carry MREs, do you break them down?

Here are some water bottle survival kits that I made for my brothers and sister for Christmas. If any of you guys can't see something, I can write it out.