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    'Secret' CIA museum features Osama bin Laden's AK-47
    By Richard Engel and Robert Windrem
    NBC News




    The “coolest museum you’ll never see” has a new piece de resistance – the gun found next to the body of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan when Navy SEALs killed him in a midnight raid.

    The AK-47 is a recent addition to a collection that’s among the toughest tickets in the country for museumgoers. Tucked into various hallways at CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., the museum displays the gadgets, artifacts and trophies of 70 years of spycraft, from World War II through the War on Terror. The museum is closed to the public and is only visited by employees and invited guests. It is rare for cameras to be allowed in.

    The Russian-made assault rifle, identified on a simple brass plaque as “Osama bin Laden’s AK-47,” shares a glass case with an al Qaeda training manual found in Afghanistan soon after 9/11.

    "This is the rifle that was recovered from the third floor of the Abbottabad compound by the assault team," said curator Toni Hiley. "Because of its proximity to (bin Laden) there on the third floor in the compound, our analyst determined it to be his. It's a Russian AK with counterfeit Chinese markings."

    Neither Hiley nor the agency will say how the AK-47 got to the museum, other than that the agency director at the time of the operation, Leon Panetta, "asked that it come into the museum collection," said Hiley. But one source told NBC News that it came from the "dark side" of the agency, the operations staff that worked with the SEALs on the May 2011 raid.

    The agency also will not comment on the specifics of how the weapon was recovered or whether it was loaded when retrieved.

    "I wasn't there," said Hiley. "So I can't confirm or deny exactly where the weapon was. I just know that I have it in my museum and I'm happy to have it."

    In the movie "Zero Dark Thirty," which was written in consultation with military and intelligence sources, a member of the assault team is shown grabbing the weapon from a shelf above bin Laden's bed in his third-floor bedroom moments after the al Qaeda leader’s death.

    Hiley said the weapon is in good working condition, but that the origin of the Chinese markings is a mystery. She said it’s not the weapon seen at Osama’s side in many propaganda videos.

    The CIA’s private museum, which was started in the early 1990s, fills three corridors in two buildings at the CIA campus just outside Washington. Agency officials call it “the coolest museum you’ll never see.”

    The museum traces the agency’s history, including its origin as the Office of Special Services (OSS), which aided resistance fighters and ran spy networks during World War II, and its years of clandestine operations during the Cold War. Artifacts include the shrapnel that struck a spy plane over North Vietnam, a silver dollar that holds microfilm and an underwater spy drone made to look like a catfish. The museum previously displayed many of the phony Hollywood accoutrements – a movie script, stationery, and company briefcase -- that a team of agents posing as filmmakers used in an audacious operation that rescued six Americans from Iran in 1979. The mission became the basis of the recent Academy Award-winning movie “Argo.”

    Bin Laden’s gun is part of a new trove of artifacts, the spoils of the War on Terror. "I think for our people it's an acknowledgment that the hard work over that 10 years and partnership with other members of the intelligence community and partnership with the military was a success,” said Hiley. “This puts the punctuation point on 10 years of this agency and our intelligence community partners looking for bin Laden."

    In addition to bin Laden’s gun, there's a brick from his compound in Abbottabad; a scale-model of the compound; a section of a wall that was part of the life-size mock-up of the compound used by the SEALs to train for the raid; and several al Qaeda training manuals found in Afghanistan, including a partially burned guide to firing surface-to-air missiles.

    There’s also a chest filled with football-sized chunks of blue and white lapis lazuli stones, one of a dozen chests of the rare stones seized by the CIA in Afghanistan. Hiley referred to the trunks as "al Qaeda's ATM." Al Qaeda used the raw lapis lazuli, which goes for $200 to $1,200 a kilogram, to circumvent banks and pay its fighters.

    The scale-model of the compound is identical to one the raid’s planners viewed in Director Panetta's office and the White House Situation Room. (The original is at the Pentagon.)

    "It's as accurate as those hundreds of pieces of intelligence would permit," said Hiley, when asked if the spare tires in the yard matched intelligence reports. "Not only are they looking at that intelligence, they're going to the analysts and asking them, 'Was the wire this far apart?' So they're trying to get absolutely every single bit of truth into this model because they know the model will be used."

    Nearby is a piece of the wall, topped with barbed wire, from a full-scale mock-up that the CIA constructed for SEAL training. The life-size mock-up was destroyed not long after the May 2011 raid.
    Last edited by CJ; 07-26-2013, 11:52 AM. Reason: Per Keith complaint
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    I expected a better cut and paste but you are busy these days.

    Nonetheless I love how we are saying that it is a Russian built gun with counterfeit Chinese stamps. I think they have it backwards or are trying to say.....no this is not one of the guns that we contracted the chinese to build for us in the early 90's so we could give them to the Muj to fight the Russians. God knows how it would look if OBL is caught having used one of those guns we bought and gave them.

    Last edited by KBScobravert; 07-26-2013, 12:02 PM. Reason: in all fairness to CJ a pic is posted
    Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
      I expected a better cut and paste but you are busy these days.

      Nonetheless I love how we are saying that it is a Russian built gun with counterfeit Chinese stamps. I think they have it backwards or are trying to say.....no this is not one of the guns that we contracted the chinese to build for us in the early 90's so we could give them to the Muj to fight the Russians. God knows how it would look if OBL is caught having used one of those guns we bought and gave them.
      yeah too busy, the only time I don't post the article all pretty I get a complaint.
      "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
      "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CJ View Post
        yeah too busy, the only time I don't post the article all pretty I get a complaint.
        we expect more from you son.

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        • #5
          Wonder who the invite has to be from?

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          • #6
            Hmmph, I would have figured he had a Century Arms Romanian WASR.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by David View Post
              Wonder who the invite has to be from?
              When you find out, I will take one. kthx

              I want to bring a bag of green army men and set them up on the compound model when no one is looking (yes I am sure they are always looking).
              Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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              • #8
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                • #9
                  i'd rather have Cubes

                  god bless.
                  It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
                    When you find out, I will take one. kthx

                    I want to bring a bag of green army men and set them up on the compound model when no one is looking (yes I am sure they are always looking).
                    Im betting its delegates and important people. No family or friends.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
                      i'd rather have Cubes

                      god bless.
                      Probably has more kills on it.

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                      • #12
                        Maybe at a GTG I'll be able to describe how cool that place is.

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                        • #13
                          They need to sell it to a collector, should bring top dollar, then use that money to fund a trayvon martin protest or rally.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Machx2 View Post
                            They need to sell it to a collector, should bring top dollar, then use that money to fund a trayvon martin protest or rally.
                            Post 86 machinegun.
                            "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
                            "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." -Alexander Fraser Tytler

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CJ View Post
                              Post 86 machinegun.
                              So, they can't sell it to an American. I'm sure any number of cartel members would pay decent money for it.
                              "It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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