Tweet
Well guys, between the manufacture not being able to give me a solid delivery date over the last week and safety concerns of mine we have had to cancel the order. There were some other issues that were rather concerning that I cant get into due to the NDA I had to sign to discuss some of the internal problem plaguing the company. The company is made up of a partnership between Jim O'Shaughnessy and a company called MAST Technologies. MAST is creating a situation where our deal fell through, I will be glad to elaborate on that if you call me to discuss the deal further.
I did some chrono testing of the ammo with CJ a few weeks ago and saw some crazy variances in velocity so we did some more digging. It seems that these rounds were not being set to a uniform depth and there was a large degree of variance from round to round. You can see what I am talking about in this picture here of the reman ammo I got in a month ago. This is the same lot that Roscoe got, he may want to take a look at his ammo as well.
Notice that the cannelures are of varying depths. The variations in bullet depth are what I attributed the velocity variances to.
I also noticed that there was a crappy bullet crimp on many of the rounds ... it didn't fall into the cannelures and the crimp was light enough to allow for bullet setback. Here is a video of me pushing a bullet into the case a bit with rather light pressures.
Between the consistency issue and the fact that I don't think the can deliver based on the information, I can't in good conscious continue this group buy.
I hope you all understand, I am pissed as FUCK about the deal going south. I understand if some of you feel malice towards me, but understand ... I got fucked here too. Not only am I not getting ammo, but this is going to cost me money as well.
I have been told by Jim that if there are any questions you can contact him at jim@blackgunammo.com or his personal cell phone (415) 515-9967. Additionally you can call me at any time and I will fill you in further to the best of my ability.
AS FAR AS REFUNDING YOUR PAYMENT
I can handle this a few different ways.
For those of you that paid by check. You can PM me your name and I can destroy the checks associated with your order. Second option is to pick up the checks from me. I will make myself as available as I can over the next few days to get everything back to you guys.
For those of you that paid with PayPal, I will be refunding your payment to you tomorrow.
For those of you that paid with money orders, I will return those to you so that you may get a refund.
I can not stress my apologies enough. We all got fucked in this deal.
-Patrick
817-800-8419
I did some chrono testing of the ammo with CJ a few weeks ago and saw some crazy variances in velocity so we did some more digging. It seems that these rounds were not being set to a uniform depth and there was a large degree of variance from round to round. You can see what I am talking about in this picture here of the reman ammo I got in a month ago. This is the same lot that Roscoe got, he may want to take a look at his ammo as well.
Notice that the cannelures are of varying depths. The variations in bullet depth are what I attributed the velocity variances to.
I also noticed that there was a crappy bullet crimp on many of the rounds ... it didn't fall into the cannelures and the crimp was light enough to allow for bullet setback. Here is a video of me pushing a bullet into the case a bit with rather light pressures.
Between the consistency issue and the fact that I don't think the can deliver based on the information, I can't in good conscious continue this group buy.
I hope you all understand, I am pissed as FUCK about the deal going south. I understand if some of you feel malice towards me, but understand ... I got fucked here too. Not only am I not getting ammo, but this is going to cost me money as well.
I have been told by Jim that if there are any questions you can contact him at jim@blackgunammo.com or his personal cell phone (415) 515-9967. Additionally you can call me at any time and I will fill you in further to the best of my ability.
AS FAR AS REFUNDING YOUR PAYMENT
I can handle this a few different ways.
For those of you that paid by check. You can PM me your name and I can destroy the checks associated with your order. Second option is to pick up the checks from me. I will make myself as available as I can over the next few days to get everything back to you guys.
For those of you that paid with PayPal, I will be refunding your payment to you tomorrow.
For those of you that paid with money orders, I will return those to you so that you may get a refund.
I can not stress my apologies enough. We all got fucked in this deal.
-Patrick
817-800-8419
Comment