Magpul+Colorado+HB1224=Magpul moving?

[Cooter]

Bill prohibits possession, but you may possess

[dieselgeek]

Way to go Colorado

[black2002ls]

There is a very large facility here in Greenville that was previously used for injection molding. As well as a rather skilled work force that no longer has an injection molding facility to work at. We lost rubbermaid here in Greenville not too long ago....

[Jose]

Maybe we should start an email campaign to Magpul to move to Texas/DFW Area?

[JP135]

I dont think Perry is that smart.

He was in Kalifornia last week meeting with business owners, trying to get them to come to Texas.

I'm not a Perry fan, but I think this is a good thing.

[nightfly2000]

Damn, come to texas where the beer is cold and the women are hot...

[GrayStangGT]

[YALE]

Takes a lot to move a manufacturing facility. If that is the case and they cannot manufacture in Colorado, what will happen to the already dry market for pmags?

I wonder when the actual stopping of sales happens.

Nah, not really. It's just a pain in the ass to physically do.

[Sean88gt]

Nah, not really. It's just a pain in the ass to physically do.

It becomes less of pain vs going out of business.

[KBScobravert]

HB1224 passed, what is next for Magpul now

http://news.yahoo.com/colo-house-passes-gun-control-measures-211816177.html

DENVER (AP) — Limits on the size of ammunition magazines and universal background checks passed the Colorado House on Monday, during a second day of emotional debates that has drawn attention from the White House as lawmakers try to address recent mass shootings.

The bills were among four that the Democratic-controlled House passed amid strong resistance from Republicans, who were joined by a few Democrats to make some of the votes close.

The proposed ammunition restrictions limit magazines to 15 rounds for firearms, and eight for shotguns. Three Democrats joined all Republicans voting no on the bill, but the proposal passed 34-31.

"Enough is enough. I'm sick and tired of bloodshed," said Democratic Rep. Rhonda Fields, a sponsor of the bill and representative of the district where the shootings at an Aurora theater happened last summer. Fields' son was also fatally shot in 2005.

Republicans argued that the proposals restrict Second Amendment rights and won't prevent mass shootings like the ones in Aurora and a Connecticut elementary school.

"This bill will never keep evil people from doing evil things," said Republican Rep. Jerry Sonnenberg.

The House also approved a bill requiring background checks on all gun purchases, including those between private sellers and firearms bought online. -[me]only change here is private sellers of course, online and otherwise you have to complete a 4473 but they always fail to mention that[/me]

Other proposals would ban concealed firearms at colleges and stadiums, and another requires that gun purchasers pay for their own background checks. -[me]here is the rub, can you say another "tax"? [/me]Democrats eked out the closest vote on the background check measure, which passed on a 33-32 vote.

Democratic Rep. Ed Vigil, who represents rural southern Colorado, voted against the four bills, saying his decision was rooted in the state's rugged history.

"This is part of our heritage. This is part of what it took to settle this land. I cannot turn my back on that," he said.

But even though a few Democrats joined Republicans in voting no for the bills, the Democrats' 37-28 advantage in the House gave them enough leeway.

The Senate still needs to consider the proposals. Democrats will need to be more unified in their support there because their advantage is only 20-15. That means Republicans need only three Democrats to join them to defeat the bills.

House lawmakers began debating the bills Friday. Lawmakers debated for 12 hours before giving initial approval to the bills, setting up the final recorded votes Monday. During the debate Friday, Vice President Joe Biden called four Democrats, including two in moderate districts, to solidify support for the measures. -[me]pushing his own agenda again[/me]

Democratic Rep. Dominick Moreno, who represents a district in suburban Denver, was among the four lawmakers. He said Biden "emphasized the importance of Colorado's role in shaping national policy around this issue."

Castle Rock Republican Rep. Carole Murray brought up Biden's calls during Monday's debate, saying she didn't appreciate "East-coast politicians" trying to influence Colorado legislators.

Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper supports the expanded background checks, and thinks gun buyers should pay for them. He also said he may support limits on the size of magazines, if lawmakers agree to a number between 15 and 20. He said he hasn't decided whether to support banning concealed firearms on campuses and stadiums.

Republicans say students should have the right to defend themselves.

"Do not disarm our young adults in general and our young women in particular on our college campuses in the name of a gun-free zone," Republican Rep. Jim Wilson said.

The gun debate highlights a fundamental philosophical difference between many Democrats and Republicans.

"I resent the implication that unless we all arm ourselves we will not be adequately protected," said Dickey Lee Hullinghorst, the Democrats' leader in the House.

Republican Rep. Christ Holbert became emotional while explaining his opposition to the bills. He said he understood Fields cares about the bills, because of her district and because her son was shot and killed in 2005.

"But I care passionately about the United States Constitution and the constitution of this state, and the oath that we have taken," Holbert said.

[Sean88gt]

I talked to a customer of mine in Penrose today and he's less then thrilled. Colorado citizens have the ability to sponsor their own bills, which they will do on this issue. They are also calling for immediate recall votes and looking into other alternatives to jam this up the democrats ass in leadership. The state is basically cut in 1/3rds (dem, cons, independents) and the latter two groups will band together to yank the ropes on the first one.

Will it go anywhere? Not sure, but people up there are furious right now.

[71chevellejohn]

Per Magpul's statment - 600 jobs(200 direct/400 in the supply chain) and $85 million annually. They had a post on their facebook stating that they already have plans in place and will leave a small crew in CO through the 2014 as a reminder to the gov't.

Now, with their private seller background BS - what's to stop a buyer/seller from driving across the state line performing their transaction and returning home(or at least saying they did)? ..... not really a group of thinkers there, but then I guess that's why they chose to become politicians.

[GhostTX]

Per Magpul's statment - 600 jobs(200 direct/400 in the supply chain) and $85 million annually. They had a post on their facebook stating that they already have plans in place and will leave a small crew in CO through the 2014 as a reminder to the gov't.

Now, with their private seller background BS - what's to stop a buyer/seller from driving across the state line performing their transaction and returning home(or at least saying they did)? ..... not really a group of thinkers there, but then I guess that's why they chose to become politicians.

Not a thing. And if I were Magpul, I'd make the magazines had no serial number or anything that could tie to a date of manufacture.

[GeorgeG.]

The state (Texas) can also offer killer incentives to help ease the pain and burden of the move though. And if I was in Austin, I would be pouncing on this just like inviting the gun owners in NY to move to Texas. Of course it is lip service but a guy can wish. Hey every 1,000 new jobs counts.

If I were Perry or Cruz, I would make Texas like Isreal.......makers of all that goes boom in our region. Maybe invite some warship builders to the coast too.

I don't know about inviting a bunch of New Yorkers to Tx. What would the long term effects be if we have more liberals voting liberals into office?

[YALE]

I don't know about inviting a bunch of New Yorkers to Tx. What would the long term effects be if we have more liberals voting liberals into office?

Employable people from rural areas in New England are the opposite of liberals.