Target Scopes

[bronco71]

Wow...and I thought this was going to be about scopes. My bad....

[SS Junk]

I am a huge pussy when it comes to certain things. I hate wasps. I scream like a lady whenever one does a fly-by or is wanting to sting. This, even after being around radio and TV towers for years.
I can understand your defensiveness. Most always those who make such snotty replies have no clue and aren't smart enough to see it being wrong. All I can do is try. As far as posting questions, I only became interested in scopes very recently. Fortunately I have a few friends who are all about what to use and why therefore when the time comes I can always use them as a source. I just like browsing this section to see what's up, and to call those who ask a basic question and then become a mouthy fuck when someone is simply trying to help out. So why not man up, apologize to Yale for being a mouthy fuck and move on?

[YALE]

Obvious post is Obvious...

I'm not worried about any scope not having enough adjustment, I'm asking about the quality of the scopes I mentioned. Optical clarity, accuracy of adjustments, construction of scope, reticle selections for each model, overall opinions or reviews, pros, cons, etc...

Then don't go fucking look at any. Just make a thread, ignore our help, and go buy the cheapest one. All of the features, and the general reputations for reliability are google search away. I'm sorry that investigation process evades you. I'm going to say, "go fuck yourself," now, and then I'm going to give you a nickel's worth of free advice. Go fuck yourself. That said, go look at scopes you feel comfortable looking through (cause the least noticeable amount of eye strain) and seem to have a good reputation. Once more for good measure: die in a fire.

[BlackGT]

Then don't go fucking look at any. Just make a thread, ignore our help, and go buy the cheapest one. All of the features, and the general reputations for reliability are google search away. I'm sorry that investigation process evades you. I'm going to say, "go fuck yourself," now, and then I'm going to give you a nickel's worth of free advice. Go fuck yourself. That said, go look at scopes you feel comfortable looking through (cause the least noticeable amount of eye strain) and seem to have a good reputation. Once more for good measure: die in a fire.

Love you too man!
And this is why you don't ask for input on anything in particular on this forum. I'll keep my questions to broad general unassuming ones from now on. That way, the responses I get might have something to do with what I asked...

[YALE]

Honestly man, I'm just trying to warn you off buying a target specific model for that distance, if big boy glass really isn't in your budget. You'll end up paying a premium for features you don't need. You need good glass at 300yds and under more than anything. Something to consider might be googling who has a good customer service reputation, and factoring that into the equation. Discount glass might look ok, but if you can't get it fixed under warranty, there isn't much point in shelling out for it in the first place. Good luck.

FWIW, these five are the only brands you posted that I would consider spending money on:
Vortex
Leupold
Bushnell
Nikon
Millet

[1kwikGT]

Look at the SWFA SS scopes, good quality at a good price.

[Trick Pony]

Honestly man, I'm just trying to warn you off buying a target specific model for that distance, if big boy glass really isn't in your budget. You'll end up paying a premium for features you don't need. You need good glass at 300yds and under more than anything. Something to consider might be googling who has a good customer service reputation, and factoring that into the equation. Discount glass might look ok, but if you can't get it fixed under warranty, there isn't much point in shelling out for it in the first place. Good luck.

FWIW, these five are the only brands you posted that I would consider spending money on:
Vortex
Leupold
Bushnell
Nikon
Millet

Good advice regarding the warranty. I try to buy scopes that have lifetime warranty from a manufacturer that will back it up. I've been happy so far with the Zeiss, Leupold, and SWFA scopes I have, all of which have lifetime warranties.

[CJ]

I'm becoming less and less impressed by Leupold with every passing year. For $400 you are well below where must of the real high quality glass starts to show up. That's usually around $800. I know I was told that many years ago and dismissed it, but after going through a lot of scopes it was definitely true. Nikon makes good glass but has little internal adjustment (fine if you're not shooting over 500 yards), Millet makes good low magnification glass, Vortex makes good stuff around $800, Bushnell elite series (like the 4200) are good glass. For your price range I would search out a used Bushnell 4200 elite.

[soap]

OP. I have a really nice Burris 3-9x40 on a P.E.P.R. Rail mount if interested?

[dee]

I'm becoming less and less impressed by Leupold with every passing year. For $400 you are well below where must of the real high quality glass starts to show up. That's usually around $800. I know I was told that many years ago and dismissed it, but after going through a lot of scopes it was definitely true. Nikon makes good glass but has little internal adjustment (fine if you're not shooting over 500 yards), Millet makes good low magnification glass, Vortex makes good stuff around $800, Bushnell elite series (like the 4200) are good glass. For your price range I would search out a used Bushnell 4200 elite.

I agree the only worthwhile Leupolds I have owned were a VariX III Tactical (predecessor to the MK4 series) and a MK 4 ER/T( which I still own kinda) but neither in my opinion are worth the asking price. The Bushnell Elite Tactical line is pretty nice with several variations to suit as well, I had one briefly before I bought my NF. My target 22-250 wears a Elite 4200 4-16x50AO, it has shot out to 400yds on prairie dogs just fine and makes busting mini clays at 250 a breeze. Another option that is around the same price range is the Vortex HS series which seem to offer a decent bang for the buck.

[GrayStangGT]

OP. I have a really nice Burris 3-9x40 on a P.E.P.R. Rail mount if interested?

I just picked up a Nikon M-223 on that exact mount off of gun broker.


Anyone have experience with the Ziess conquest? Found some being clearanced out and thinking about picking one up for a deer rifle.

[soap]

I just picked up a Nikon M-223 on that exact mount off of gun broker.


Anyone have experience with the Ziess conquest? Found some being clearanced out and thinking about picking one up for a deer rifle.

Those mounts are badass!!!

[BlackGT]

OP. I have a really nice Burris 3-9x40 on a P.E.P.R. Rail mount if interested?

Appreciate it, but I think based on the info i've read, and reviews i've found, I'm going to either get another Vortex Viper or maybe a PST.

[svauto-erotic855]

Look on Ebay for a used Weaver T series target scope. I have quite a few of them on various rifles and could not be happier.

[1985gt]

Look at the SWFA SS scopes, good quality at a good price.

I would agree with this. Their fixed power scopes have great clarity, and they are inexpensive. I love mine.