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Interesting question. Let's say you built a Krink AK from a 80% blank. It has no serial number. Can you serialize the weapon and then file a Form1 to SBR it? I seem to remember some legal issue with serializing your own weapons, I could be wrong - I've never done it so I'm curious.
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I believe at that point you serialize it and submit as regular. -
You have to serialize any weapon you create from what I've read, i.e. 80% receivers. I don't see how creating a lower then applying for the tax stamp would be any different then what's done with an ar lower. But then again, the atf has different rules for just about everything it seems.Comment
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I asked my FFL guy this question, but regarding the sale of such a weapon. He said that he THOUGHT you can build it from a parts kit for you own use without having to serialize it, but if you wanted to sell it, you would have to have a Manufacturing FFL and put a serial number on it.Comment
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Exactly right. That's the way I understand it, and I'm not sure if serializing a weapon constitutes manufacturing as you don't have to serialize a weapon you manufacture for yourself.Originally posted by bigshoe View Post"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
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That's definitely not true. There is no law that states that. Gotta be careful what you read on the internet.Originally posted by phaux View Post
On a second note, I was shooting at my range last weekend and there were some police officers there. I was talking to them about this, and asked them about running serials when you get pulled over. I then asked him about guns without serials (pre 68 GCA) and they said all of them were illegal. They had no idea that guns were produced without serial numbers legally. I even had my 552 which has no serial, showed it to them, and then came to the conclusion it was illegal, or had a serial number hidden somewhere on it. Absolutely refused to believe it."When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
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To form 1 a gun you built you have to make a serial number and have it engraved.Originally posted by lincolnboyComment
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I just wanted to make sure the ATF didn't cross reference for a 4473.Originally posted by DOHCTR View Post"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
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correctOriginally posted by CJ View Post
only issue is you cant turn around & sell it.
unless you demill the receiver or become a SOT manufacturer &stampengrave (manu. info) itComment
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for a suppressor you have to make up a S/N , submit paperwork, then build i& engrave it. once approvedOriginally posted by bigshoe View PostComment
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i dont think there is any cross reference to 4473Originally posted by CJ View Post
as my SBR was no paperwork to start, it was FTF deal. so issue w/ getting stampComment
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What happens when you get pulled over with a non-serialized gun that one built?Comment
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The cops I talked to, at least the two at the range, were clueless. They thought they knew everything though. It just scares me that they are out there, and they don't know the laws they enforce. They were both from DWG as well.Originally posted by TeeShock View Post"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
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Yep, you are correct, no serial #. Here's a snippit from an atf letter:
Also, for your information, a nonlicensee may manufacture a semiautomatic rifle for his or her own personal use. As long as the firearm remains in the custody of the person who manufactured it, the firearm neednot be marked with a serial number or name and location of the manufacturer. However, if the firearm is transferred to another party at some point in the future, the firearm must be marked in accordance with the provisions set forth in 27 CFR ยง 478.92 (formerly 178.92).Comment
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